english is a different language system from chinese.

and all he said is just a repeat of what my english teacher said before. maybe i was lucky to have a good english teacher when i was a kid.

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛regardless if you want to take his classes or not. Can't we Chinese be just more generous and applauding for others' achievements than picking others flaws? No one is perfect. Don't you see most Canadians compliment others very often even for the smallest achievements? We got to learn that in order to be truely westernized. What I don't like about some people's comments is that they themselves cannot do that but they are so quick to pick others flaws first.

I not a big fan of Jerry, but a lot of what he said in his seminars does make sense to me, and I've personally benifited from the inspirations from his success, even though I didn't take his courses, now I am able to make very Canadian-like pronouciations, and I am still working towards perfection. From my experience, if you think pronounication is not important and you're OK to live with that kind of Chiglish pronouciation, you will not get into big trouble of course, but you will find yourself speaking the same kind of Chiglish five years from now, ten years from now. To put you in pespective, would that kind of Chiglish give you confidence to make a public presentation in front of a crowd of local Canadians?更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net

whatever you make 托, 做free广告, all of them don't make any sense - the students feedbacks are most important!
The best way for 新概念, i guess, is to train the teacher or hire real language teacher, if you really want to help Chinese guys improve English, rather than just make money from them.
Otherwise, like singapura said: there is no need to spend any money (on any English class), nobody will never ever be cheated to 新概念English class any more!

英语发音一对一纠正是他的Level one课程的精华所在. 花点钱纠正几个对于中国人来说最容易发错的而且已发错了十几年的发音,是否值得我相信各人自有评判.况且这些音的发音错误会导致歧义,而不是口音问题那么简单.比如l,r,oo,oun等等.

退一步说, 就算他的方法只对一部分人有效,也是公德无量的一件事.我们可以再找别的方法去帮助其他人.总比相互挑刺强吧.

只要一个文件就可以，看看到底如何。 另外看到Jerry回答一位同学对Jerrystorm的质疑，有点意思。链接如下： http://www.jerrystorm.net/forum/read.php?tid=409&fpage=1

和口语相比听力更难提高，如果有人能够听的懂LAW AND ORDER里95％的台词，我认为这个人英语已经非常好了。至于口语要想说的和老外一样或者接近本地人的水平几乎是不可能的，即使你的老婆或者丈夫是老外也是一样。中文的思维方式用词方法和英文根本不一样。老外只不过认为你到这儿时间比较长了或者是在这儿出生的。你再怎么狂练也不会比当地人说的好的。其实英语够用就行，听的懂，自己想说的能够比较流畅的表达出来就行了。不要让英语成为自己的比较明显的短处，很多居心不良的当地人很容易就利用这个攻击你。

But it's only for the pronunciation. If you would speak fluent English, you still have to work on your own. I would recommend people already speak good English to take this course. By good english, I meant you can freely express your feelings. You just want to kill the accent.

For those still struggling for getting words line up to come out of your mouth, I don't think this course is going to help a lot on that.

但是一听就是中国人讲的，纵然英文如我一般烂，也能听出来。
另外，这种的口音纠正课完全是骗钱，新移民口语最需要的是提高流利程度和正确性，而不是口音。不能正确表达自己的意思，口音再加拿大又如何。我讲的英文是标准中国口音，而我并不以此为耻，我能清楚表达自己的意思，为什么我要去改变我讲了几十年的口音。

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛首先，发音对理解和被理解有大的影响吗？没有，想想印巴人的发音就知道了，只有我们听着有点费劲。

其次，Jerry说的好不好？对于20岁才过来的人来讲，的确太好了，而且实在实在是不容易。

再其次，Jerry在新概念的口音班好不好？不好，就从课堂的规模来讲也不会达到预想的效果，10多人的口音纠正课程只是附和新概念的盈利目的，每个人得到的时间太少了，又没有后期跟进的服务。再看看学出来的人说的也实在实在不敢恭维。口音纠正的班课堂必须小，不能超过5个人。多收钱可以，培养出几个提高的令人信服的才是。

最好，我觉得大家实在应该感谢singapura牺牲个人时间帮助别人练习口语，实在难能可贵, 祝愿他/她的English Club能越办越好。虽然口音的确是另外一个层次的需求，对于新移民来讲，能自信流利的表达是第一位，但口音是重要的语言形象，工作，生活到了一定程度，对口音纠正的要求必然就有了。MBA毕业就业指导的时候有许多华人学生问，是不是华人毕业生只可能进入金融行业，而没有在北美做管理咨询的可能？得到的回答很简单：“我相信所有我们毕业生的能力 ... However, as management consulting firms, they need someone who can truely present the firms when talking with clients, not only by what they deliver ... ".口音是个门面呀。

所以别争了. 如果你觉得没有必要纠正口音，你是对的，因为你的圈子没有对你这样的要求。觉得必须纠正的，也是对的，因为你已经走到了这样一个路口，不论是求职还是晋升。对于Jerry在新概念的口音纠正班，一是要大幅度缩小课堂规模，最好是一对一纠正的clinic，3人左右。其次必须吸收那些已经能比较流利表达英语的人作为学生，一定要明确哪些人是你的培养对象，也必须要清楚你的方法不会适合所有的人，或任何阶段的人，不要把效果说的太绝对了。如果做不到这些，那么这个课堂只能是自毁名声，最后只是给新概念一个free ride 而已。

至于新概念，没有什么好坏的，就是个企业，赚钱而已。他的JOB Agent和虚假的背景推荐，帮了一些人，害了其他所有的人。比其他学校好的是，它能按时付给老师工资，所以留住了一些好的老师。

至于Maria，是一个忍辱负重的人，除了钱，其他很容易谈的来。谁跟她侃价她跟谁急，你要是转身要逃，她一定追你到电梯，最后在电梯门关闭的一霎那，给你1%的折扣。well，能说好坏吗？就是一个精打细算的人罢了。想想要是你自己的生意你能怎样？更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net

I have taken Jerry's class. I found that it is really helpful for me. Because I knew I have pronunciation problem and some sounds I could not even make. Therefore, I have tried so many ways to correct it, like talking a lot with Canadians, going to pronunciation classes, you name it. No conspicuous improvement. After I took Jerry's class, my Canadian friends told me that my pronunciation is much better than before. This is just my own experience. If you want to improve your pronunciation, and could not find a good way, why not go to his class in person, sit behind the classroom and find out by yourself. (there is no charge for the first class). That was what I did before.