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Last Updated: 2012-12-9
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  • 工作学习 / 外语学习 / 追求口语地道化，千万不能简单化 -vinetree(藤帅); 2012-12-9 {312} (#7943557@0)
    俺有个老港同事，说话每句都带＂ｌｉｋｅ　＂，有时一句中间都带几个＂ｌｉｋｅ＂，　甚至说“kind of like", 听得难过死了。

    类似的口头语有：
    en-hum, okay?, right?, you see what I mean?, you know,

    还有不断耸肩摊手等动作，对话中用得太多，很恼人。
    也许就是当初学英文简单化模仿老外落下的病。毛病一成，终身难改啊。
    • 说得很好！人家的末流习惯当地道宝典模仿，学了一腔垃圾，完全被误导，跟所处环境，教育背景多少有点关系。加拿大语言不是最好的，陋习很多，语言清晰准确度欠佳，全名谦卑容易让流俗匠技成一股风， -goingconern(GoingConcern); 2012-12-9 {123} (#7943578@0)
      ＂dot your i's and cross your t's " 这种民间俗语并不入流，我们大家要对＂质量＂＂style" 有待再加深认识，不可盲目跟风啊！
      • 口语的好坏在于清晰准确生动流畅和达意；雅俗取决于场景。同意你说的，有些cliches老外都在力图避免,不过初学者学了也就学了，但如果奉为经典，就搞笑了。 -vinetree(藤帅); 2012-12-9 (#7943597@0)
    • Those are called "filler" words. A good communicator should avoid filler word. An effective way to improve is to join a Toastmasters club. -sailor(Mountains&Ocean); 2012-12-9 (#7943586@0)
      • Ironically, these language fillers were imitated by ESL people as idiomatic expressions, and got perpetuated as a bad habit in their future communication. -vinetree(藤帅); 2012-12-9 (#7943590@0)
        • People may not realize that. It's good to point it out. Thanks for that! :) -sailor(Mountains&Ocean); 2012-12-9 (#7943800@0)
      • The "filler" is better than silence. -zhousx18(心想事成); 2012-12-9 (#7943602@0)
        • Nah... -goingconern(GoingConcern); 2012-12-9 (#7943606@0)
        • Using fillers is better than stuttering; silence sometimes indicates contemplation. 当然最好都不要，实在不行就岔开话题；顾左右而言他；操控局面，who怕who啊？ -vinetree(藤帅); 2012-12-9 (#7943608@0)
        • From what I learnt, some short silent moments are better than filler words. If you listen to radio, you will find broadcasters never use filler words. -sailor(Mountains&Ocean); 2012-12-9 (#7943799@0)
          • because broadcasters read from scripts. -wincity(红卫兵); 2012-12-9 (#7943813@0)
            • 又一个病句. O(∩_∩)O -thornthorn($oOHoly MolyOo$); 2012-12-9 {7} (#7943955@0)
              哈哈哈~
          • Obama always uses 'you know', 'Um','Al','And' filler words in his speech! -zhousx18(心想事成); 2012-12-9 (#7943818@0)
            • even though he reads from scripts :) -wincity(红卫兵); 2012-12-9 (#7943820@0)
            • 看人家布什，智商80，完整句子说不清楚的当总统，还当了八年，咱何必为难自己。 -mikesmith(老猫); 2012-12-9 {156} (#7943825@0)
              • Even the Hoax ranks his IQ higher. -thornthorn($oOHoly MolyOo$); 2012-12-9 (#7943904@0)
                • 管他智商是８０还是１２０，反正能给大家带来很多欢笑． -mikesmith(老猫); 2012-12-9 (#7944181@0)
                  • 他人还是不错的. -thornthorn($oOHoly MolyOo$); 2012-12-9 (#7944187@0)
            • So what? I would not learn much from him about public speaking. He is average compared with other leaders. -goingconern(GoingConcern); 2012-12-9 (#7944168@0)
              • 你这样说坛子里有人会很生气的。 -wincity(红卫兵); 2012-12-9 (#7944180@0)
                • 黎叔 -mikesmith(老猫); 2012-12-9 {319} (#7944183@0)
                  • 新ID还是老ID? -thornthorn($oOHoly MolyOo$); 2012-12-9 (#7944192@0)
                    • 红卫兵让我想起了天下无贼里的名句 -mikesmith(老猫); 2012-12-9 (#7944205@0)
                • 你就说是老猫得了呗. -thornthorn($oOHoly MolyOo$); 2012-12-9 (#7944186@0)
                  • 那是无论如何不会的．咱信仰民主，这点个人观点还不能尊重，岂不白信了．即使在美国，也还有近一半的人选了Romney... -mikesmith(老猫); 2012-12-9 (#7944210@0)

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