本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛but I did draw a conclusion and I believe it is close to the fact --simply because it came from my logical thinking and common senses.
Attached in this post is a long email among these "suspects", whom I don't think are the criminal masterminds at all after reading through this email. Any way, people, you can look at it too and comment your own opinions. it does not necessary to be the same as mine.
--- Hanlin Li <liha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sorry I haven't checked my home emails for days. I
> was
> back to the hectic life at work, had to work
> overtime
> on Friday. Well, the vacation is over, indeed.
>
> Anyway, Gang and I will do some more literature
> search, and hopefully come up with something useful.
>
> Just now, Gang is talking with someone we don't know
> on the phone. looks like the situation is really bad
> now, they dig out everything about us, they know our
> home phone number, address, where we work, even know
> we came back to US on Jan. 9 (Belle doesn't even
> know
> that!). what worries me now is that wangqi and jinya
> won't be hidden for long. Anyway, we all need to be
> prepared for the worst.
>
> Sun xiaozhu, did you post another statement on the
> internet around Jan. 8? are you solicting the
> engagement of police system? I need to know what
> your
> position is. Could you forward that statement to me
> and Gang?
>
> Talk to you later. I may need to give you a call
> some
> time. should I still use your parents' number?
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No <sunwe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Hanlin,
> > I just found today on Sina, in Wu Hong fei's blog,
> > she
> > reported Zhu's case, and in the reply, i find
> > somebody
> > pretending to be Xue Gang as well.
> >
> > 回复 网易网友(222.32.112.*):
> >
>
清华物化2班的的朱令的同学们,你们真的就都是些自私自利见利忘义的小人?就没有一个
> >
>
象贝志成那样敢于说话吗?这是清华的悲哀!这是清华的悲哀!这是清华的悲哀!这是清
> >
>
华的悲哀!这是清华的悲哀!这是清华的悲哀!这是清华的悲哀!这是清华的悲哀!这是
> >
>
清华的悲哀!这是清华的悲哀!这是清华的悲哀!!!!!清华的同学门,你们还有良心
> > 吗,不做噩梦吗????
> >
> >
>
我是物化2班的团支书,我真的不忍心看到有关朱朱的所有东西,这些年来我一直生活在自责于内疚之中,我不知道我该怎么做,其实这件事要真的查出真相一点都不难,国务院督办!我能说的就是当年朱朱第二次中毒孙维被传的时候,院领导和系部召开了一次很秘密的会议,我是唯一一个参加会议的在校学生,也许他们知道通知我开会是个很大的错误,当中讲了一会儿的时候系主任叫我回去了,但我在我所在场的18分钟内,我已经知道内容大概了,我的任务是事件保密和按护全班同学,不准单独核查和不准猜测议论,在会议中提到是孙主席指示的,而且有关方面在为维维准备出国手续,后来我知道是孙浮林。
> >
> >
> >
>
到这里大家心理也很清楚,这件事如果中央不出面的话,在中国目前这个体制里,朱朱事件只有沉冤!!!光凭一个贝志诚是不够的。
> >
> >
>
这些年我没有站出来,我有我的苦衷,包括我们2班所有同学。我们经常会收到拿我们自己性命和家人性命以及工作等等相关的威胁!株连九族大家或许只在电视上见过,可这些随时可以发生在我们2班同学身上。
> >
> >
>
我希望中央能真的重视这个案件,还朱朱一个公道。就是高院和高检都没办法的,只有中央!!!
> >
> >
> > So you couple are both used :-P
> >
> > Kidding, I think now the situation is really very
> > bad.
> > People are much worse than I thought. But in stead
> > of
> > getting angry, like couple of weeks ago, I feel
> > amused, strange hum? These people are too dirty
> for
> > me
> > to be angry with them :)
> >
> > So girls, i think we don't need further clarify
> > things
> > on internet, unless something really important
> > pop-up
> > -- I doubt though. Anyway, my family is
> monitering.
> > So let's live our normal life.
> > If for something I need help, i will shout :-)
> >
> > So basically, the help I needed from you all:
> > 1. Paper related: Ya and Hanlin couple -- "tasks"
> > already sent in another mail :-P
> >
> > 2. the supporting letter I previously sent out --
> > less
> > urgent than above paper, so take your time :-)
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
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You know what? This morning my professor, in
surprise, showed me an anonymous email saying I am a
suspect of a poisoning case and asking for my contact
address. (email address is a newly registered "zhu
guan" and the gxzl...@yahoo.com, guess should be 朱关
and 关心朱令).
I guess this should be from a person who know I am the
roommate. The good point is they don't know I am
still in the same lab (since the lab's homepage
doesn't include my name), or they may be more crazy to
do something. My professor of course thinks it's
ridiculous and trusts me, dont worry.
Things are getting so messy, I also read a guy
pretending to be qizi, while giving the Ph.D thesis
title of that male wangqi's to prove he/she is real
wangqi. Faint to death.
--- Hanlin Li <liha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sun Xiaozhu,
>
> Don't feel bad, I was digged out mainly because of
> Gang, as the wife of Zhi1 Shu1. And like you said,
> it
> made me feel much safer than you guys because I am
> in
> US, they can't do much about me. If there were
> anything outrageous happened, I could seek law
> enforcement. Looks like now they think WQ and I live
> in the same room with you, so yazi may be safe for a
> while. It was our careless mistake that we didn't
> change our phone number after we move to the current
> address. We thought it would be easier for the
> people
> we knew to keep in touch with us. Well, guess what!
> Anyway, I have a caller id at home, so I can filter
> calls and won't take unrecognized calls.
>
> FYI, here is my contact information:
>
> Home phone: (860) 437-7804
> Cell: (860) 235-0671
> Gang's cell: (860) 912-5392
>
> During my working hours (your night time), you may
> want to send emails to my pfizer email:
> hanl...@pfizer.com, so I can get it instantly. I
> don't check my personal email that often at work.
>
> TAKE CARE,
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No <sunwe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
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Hanlin
So so so sorry to make you all famous! :-( Be really
careful, those people can do anything. Digging out the
info is 1st step, next they may do things more mean.
Like Jinya's boss got the anonymos letter saying she
was the suspect! You & Gang need to be very careful,
especially you, as somebody think you were the
roommate. Maybe you want to inform your boss ahead?
If he/she knows about cultural revolution, it's easier
for them to understand, like Ya's boss. Anyway, you
decide yourself, but just get prepared...
Don't be chou4 mei3 about the comment of being "Liang4
li4" :-P
They won't stop doing mean things simply because you
are "Liang4 Li4".
BTW, maybe you want to share with us your "liang li"
picture in high-school? I haven't seen it before :-)
I also remembered I saw somewhere people found out the
amount of Gang's denate to ZhuLing and people are
spreading virus words, saying it's too little etc. I
was sooo furious! How ugly people are!! Recently I'm
always surprised about this topic :(
Back to your question, according to media, it's
lethal, I mean dose in ZL's blood.
--- Hanlin Li <liha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sun Xiaozhu,
>
> I've searched a different database (OVID/MEDLINE)
> from
> Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> references
> don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> couple of papers of interest through our
> inter-library
> loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> striking information was obtained. The patients
> cited
> in most papers were administrated and treated in
> hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored for
> long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose in
> Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure out
> again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
>
> Yazi,
>
> The attachements you sent in your earlier email, I
> can
> only open them at home (which doesn't help much). I
> need to have the list of your hit references (was it
> 300?) in some other format, so I can open them at
> work
> and do searches.
>
> Now my name is all over the place on internet, I am
> the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> shocked at their "capability", they did a reverse
> search and find my current home address, my pictures
> from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer title,
> and even attached a satillite map of my house from
> google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the bright
> side of it, as I found somebody referred me as the
> "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah? So,
> Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4 girl,
> as
> I was told someone has already digged out your
> picture
> from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> even
> know where it is. :-)
>
> I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is now
> banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway, keep me
> posted for anything new.
>
> Take care, all piglets.
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No <sunwe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:33:33 -0800 (PST)
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Oh, yes? Somebody digged out my photo from my lab's
homepage? I am sure it was removed last year after
the previous scholarship ended. So somebody saved the
old page even that early? I am somewhat shocked. En,
anyway, though I am sure they won't saying me "liang4
li4", don't say me "man3 lian3 heng2 rou4" like poor
sun niangzi, :)).
About the format of list of my hit references, the
format I saved can't be open in ur office? If you
mean the 200 papers' (the first 10 pages of my
searching hits) info., I am attaching it here the txt
format file, though many of them are not very useful.
--- Hanlin Li <liha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sun Xiaozhu,
>
> I've searched a different database (OVID/MEDLINE)
> from
> Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> references
> don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> couple of papers of interest through our
> inter-library
> loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> striking information was obtained. The patients
> cited
> in most papers were administrated and treated in
> hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored for
> long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose in
> Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure out
> again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
>
> Yazi,
>
> The attachements you sent in your earlier email, I
> can
> only open them at home (which doesn't help much). I
> need to have the list of your hit references (was it
> 300?) in some other format, so I can open them at
> work
> and do searches.
>
> Now my name is all over the place on internet, I am
> the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> shocked at their "capability", they did a reverse
> search and find my current home address, my pictures
> from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer title,
> and even attached a satillite map of my house from
> google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the bright
> side of it, as I found somebody referred me as the
> "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah? So,
> Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4 girl,
> as
> I was told someone has already digged out your
> picture
> from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> even
> know where it is. :-)
>
> I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is now
> banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway, keep me
> posted for anything new.
>
> Take care, all piglets.
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No <sunwe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
attach16_by_jinya_list in txt.txt
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<w...@gffunds.com.cn>, "sun wei" <sunwe...@yahoo.com>
hehehe, agree with Hanlin, they are really "capable"
of digging out others' privacy. I found they deduced
me to be "tai yang zheng nuan", quite reasonable, :)
http://www.is4u.net/gta4/news.aspx?nid=4635 (except my
publication list only gives those rubbish ones I
wrote, qie~~~ :P), if the link is still there when u
read.
by the way, I saw:
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So the Gong-an will finally do something? Really hope
so, I feel really need the authorized dept to say
something.
--- Hanlin Li <liha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sun Xiaozhu,
>
> I've searched a different database (OVID/MEDLINE)
> from
> Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> references
> don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> couple of papers of interest through our
> inter-library
> loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> striking information was obtained. The patients
> cited
> in most papers were administrated and treated in
> hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored for
> long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose in
> Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure out
> again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
>
> Yazi,
>
> The attachements you sent in your earlier email, I
> can
> only open them at home (which doesn't help much). I
> need to have the list of your hit references (was it
> 300?) in some other format, so I can open them at
> work
> and do searches.
>
> Now my name is all over the place on internet, I am
> the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> shocked at their "capability", they did a reverse
> search and find my current home address, my pictures
> from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer title,
> and even attached a satillite map of my house from
> google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the bright
> side of it, as I found somebody referred me as the
> "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah? So,
> Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4 girl,
> as
> I was told someone has already digged out your
> picture
> from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> even
> know where it is. :-)
>
> I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is now
> banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway, keep me
> posted for anything new.
>
> Take care, all piglets.
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No <sunwe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
Subject: Re: BTW, pls include xxx for this discussion
To: "Jin Ya" <jiny...@yahoo.com>
CC: "Hanlin Li" <han...@snet.net>, "Hanlin Li" <liha...@yahoo.com>,
"sun wei" <sunwe...@yahoo.com>, "Qi Wang" <w...@gffunds.com.cn>
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Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:39:51 +0800
Dear meizi,
I have not noticed what you wrote in the following e-mail. I just
noticed
tianya has banned this topic. It made me happy because some id is
really
mean and the discussion is absolutely bullshit and nonsense.
These days I am a little busy so not to talk with you by msn, sorry for
it.
Also sorry for niangzi that I didn't help in looking through the
documents.
:(
Talk to you later.
TAKE CARE, PIGLETS!
Gao
Jin Ya
<jinyajane@yahoo.
com>
To
Hanlin Li <liha...@yahoo.com>,
Fei
01/20/2006 11:55 Gao <rita...@sz.chn.tuv.com>,
AM Hanlin Li <han...@snet.net>, Qi
Wang <w...@gffunds.com.cn>, sun
wei
<sunwe...@yahoo.com>
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this
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hehehe, agree with Hanlin, they are really "capable"
of digging out others' privacy. I found they deduced
me to be "tai yang zheng nuan", quite reasonable, :)
http://www.is4u.net/gta4/news.aspx?nid=4635 (except my
publication list only gives those rubbish ones I
wrote, qie~~~ :P), if the link is still there when u
read.
by the way, I saw:
『天涯杂谈』 暂停“朱令铊中毒事件”讨论的通知
作者:webmaster 提交日期:2006-1-19 12:06:00
为有利于事件的顺利解决,有关“朱令铊中毒事件”话
题暂停讨论,敬请各位网友配合。
特此通知
2006-1-19
--------------------------------
So the Gong-an will finally do something? Really hope
so, I feel really need the authorized dept to say
something.
--- Hanlin Li <liha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sun Xiaozhu,
>
> I've searched a different database (OVID/MEDLINE)
> from
> Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> references
> don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> couple of papers of interest through our
> inter-library
> loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> striking information was obtained. The patients
> cited
> in most papers were administrated and treated in
> hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored for
> long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose in
> Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure out
> again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
>
> Yazi,
>
> The attachements you sent in your earlier email, I
> can
> only open them at home (which doesn't help much). I
> need to have the list of your hit references (was it
> 300?) in some other format, so I can open them at
> work
> and do searches.
>
> Now my name is all over the place on internet, I am
> the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> shocked at their "capability", they did a reverse
> search and find my current home address, my pictures
> from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer title,
> and even attached a satillite map of my house from
> google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the bright
> side of it, as I found somebody referred me as the
> "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah? So,
> Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4 girl,
> as
> I was told someone has already digged out your
> picture
> from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> even
> know where it is. :-)
>
> I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is now
> banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway, keep me
> posted for anything new.
>
> Take care, all piglets.
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No <sunwe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
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It's a surprise to see Jin Niangzi have actually
published so many papers!! :-) Surprise surprise, I
thought she only spend the time playing around in
Tsinghua :-D
BTW, Niangzi, your picture from lab is quite good
looking :-) Absolutely not "man3 lian3 heng2 rou4"
like me :"(
Yesterday I still saw a lot of posts on Tianya, and
people are again posting my previous work and my
parents home etc. To be frank I don't know why Tianya
suddenly stopped. I don't think it's police, cos in
Sina and many other sites it's still very hot. Why
they only stop Tianya then? If, IF, it's really Gong
An, want to carm down this thing, they again proved
themselves to be stupid, only find Tianya and ignored
other sites? As stupid as before when they are
investigating Zhu Ling's case!
Anyway, TAKE CARE all!
Wei
--- Jin Ya <jiny...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> hehehe, agree with Hanlin, they are really "capable"
> of digging out others' privacy. I found they
> deduced
> me to be "tai yang zheng nuan", quite reasonable, :)
> http://www.is4u.net/gta4/news.aspx?nid=4635 (except
> my
> publication list only gives those rubbish ones I
> wrote, qie~~~ :P), if the link is still there when u
> read.
>
> by the way, I saw:
>
> 『天涯杂谈』 暂停“朱令铊中毒事件”讨论的通知
>
>
> 作者:webmaster 提交日期:2006-1-19 12:06:00
>
>
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>
>
>
> 特此通知
> 2006-1-19
> --------------------------------
>
> So the Gong-an will finally do something? Really
> hope
> so, I feel really need the authorized dept to say
> something.
>
> --- Hanlin Li <liha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Sun Xiaozhu,
> >
> > I've searched a different database (OVID/MEDLINE)
> > from
> > Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> > references
> > don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> > couple of papers of interest through our
> > inter-library
> > loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> > striking information was obtained. The patients
> > cited
> > in most papers were administrated and treated in
> > hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored for
> > long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose
> in
> > Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure out
> > again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
> >
> > Yazi,
> >
> > The attachements you sent in your earlier email, I
> > can
> > only open them at home (which doesn't help much).
> I
> > need to have the list of your hit references (was
> it
> > 300?) in some other format, so I can open them at
> > work
> > and do searches.
> >
> > Now my name is all over the place on internet, I
> am
> > the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> > shocked at their "capability", they did a reverse
> > search and find my current home address, my
> pictures
> > from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer
> title,
> > and even attached a satillite map of my house from
> > google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the
> bright
> > side of it, as I found somebody referred me as the
> > "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah? So,
> > Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4
> girl,
> > as
> > I was told someone has already digged out your
> > picture
> > from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> > even
> > know where it is. :-)
> >
> > I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is
> now
> > banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway, keep
> me
> > posted for anything new.
> >
> > Take care, all piglets.
> >
> > Hanlin
> >
> > --- Yes No <sunwe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:18:49 -0800 (PST)
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The topic is still hot in sina and other websites ?
fuuuuuuuuu, disappointed. I thought a big action will
be made by our police uncles, :(, seems they are
really nuts.
Thanks for comforting~~~, belle and niangzi, but
really, ignore those stupid publications, every
chinese papers I wrote was rubbish, :P (wang xiaozhu
will understand immediately :)) )
You take care, too! Have a good weekend!
--- rita...@sz.chn.tuv.com wrote:
> I have looked through that article just now and
> agree with Sun xiaozhu.
> Hehe, the picture looks nice.
>
> Actually, the information they digged out let me
> know you are so excellent!
> Cheers! :)
>
> TAKE CARE, ALL!
>
> Gao
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes No
>
> <sunweihere@yahoo
>
> .com>
> To
> Jin Ya
> <jiny...@yahoo.com>,
> 01/20/2006 02:20 Hanlin Li
> <liha...@yahoo.com>, Fei
> PM Gao
> <rita...@sz.chn.tuv.com>,
> Hanlin Li
> <han...@snet.net>, Qi
> Wang
> <w...@gffunds.com.cn>
>
> cc
>
>
>
> Subject
> Re: BTW, pls
> include xxx for this
> discussion
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It's a surprise to see Jin Niangzi have actually
> published so many papers!! :-) Surprise surprise, I
> thought she only spend the time playing around in
> Tsinghua :-D
>
> BTW, Niangzi, your picture from lab is quite good
> looking :-) Absolutely not "man3 lian3 heng2 rou4"
> like me :"(
>
> Yesterday I still saw a lot of posts on Tianya, and
> people are again posting my previous work and my
> parents home etc. To be frank I don't know why
> Tianya
> suddenly stopped. I don't think it's police, cos in
> Sina and many other sites it's still very hot. Why
> they only stop Tianya then? If, IF, it's really Gong
> An, want to carm down this thing, they again proved
> themselves to be stupid, only find Tianya and
> ignored
> other sites? As stupid as before when they are
> investigating Zhu Ling's case!
>
> Anyway, TAKE CARE all!
>
> Wei
>
> --- Jin Ya <jiny...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > hehehe, agree with Hanlin, they are really
> "capable"
> > of digging out others' privacy. I found they
> > deduced
> > me to be "tai yang zheng nuan", quite reasonable,
> :)
> > http://www.is4u.net/gta4/news.aspx?nid=4635
> (except
> > my
> > publication list only gives those rubbish ones I
> > wrote, qie~~~ :P), if the link is still there when
> u
> > read.
> >
> > by the way, I saw:
> >
> > 『虂E脑犹浮?暂停“謥E丒柚卸臼录碧致鄣耐ㄖ?> >
> >
> > 作者:webmaster 提交日期:2006-1-19 12:06:00
> >
> >
> 为有利于事件的顺利解决,有关“謥E丒柚卸臼录被?> 题暂停讨论,敬莵E魑煌雅浜稀?> >
> >
> >
> > 特此通知
> > 2006-1-19
> > --------------------------------
> >
> > So the Gong-an will finally do something? Really
> > hope
> > so, I feel really need the authorized dept to say
> > something.
> >
> > --- Hanlin Li <liha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Sun Xiaozhu,
> > >
> > > I've searched a different database
> (OVID/MEDLINE)
> > > from
> > > Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> > > references
> > > don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> > > couple of papers of interest through our
> > > inter-library
> > > loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> > > striking information was obtained. The patients
> > > cited
> > > in most papers were administrated and treated in
> > > hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored
> for
> > > long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose
> > in
> > > Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure
> out
> > > again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
> > >
> > > Yazi,
> > >
> > > The attachements you sent in your earlier email,
> I
> > > can
> > > only open them at home (which doesn't help
> much).
> > I
> > > need to have the list of your hit references
> (was
> > it
> > > 300?) in some other format, so I can open them
> at
> > > work
> > > and do searches.
> > >
> > > Now my name is all over the place on internet, I
> > am
> > > the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> > > shocked at their "capability", they did a
> reverse
> > > search and find my current home address, my
> > pictures
> > > from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer
> > title,
> > > and even attached a satillite map of my house
> from
> > > google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the
> > bright
> > > side of it, as I found somebody referred me as
> the
> > > "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah?
> So,
> > > Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4
> > girl,
> > > as
> > > I was told someone has already digged out your
> > > picture
> > > from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> > > even
> > > know where it is. :-)
> > >
> > > I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is
> > now
> > > banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway,
> keep
> > me
> > > posted for anything new.
> > >
> > > Take care, all piglets.
> > >
> > > Hanlin
> > >
> > > --- Yes No <sunwe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
>
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Hanlin,
I VERY VERY much agree with you: I always talk with
xxx, how ugly human nature can be when they don't need
to be responsible!
I also talked with my brother about what they did to
you, you know what my brother said? He was very angry
and said you should claim back the money, including
the interest! :-P
I fully understand your feeling -- I also feel so
discusting when read it. I have to say you are very
nice and still think it's not a good idea, if I were
you, i will never donate anymore. It's not about the
money at all, it's the feeling. I just hate my
kindness being USED by ugly people!
Hanlin
One thing I think we should do now is, I also told
other piglets, to collect materials and "evidence"
that these people are mad, and they are doing crazy
things just to po4 hai4 us. I don't know exactly how
are we going to use the material yet, but it doesn't
harm to collect it.
So could you pls collect these virus message / people/
ID, save the content so that it's readable offline
even if they delete it one day, or screenshot as well.
For those bad things, i.e., hurting your private
life/privacy, work, curse, virus words, so something
like saying we are he2 mou2 murdering etc.
Collect them now.
One good side benifit is that if you think of this
purpose, you no longer get angry when reading those
posts :-) It works on me quite well :)
Again, take care!
--- Hanlin Li <liha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Agree with all, that Yazi's does look great in the
> picture, free advertisement! and I wouldn't be
> surprised that they find out Yazi is still
> available.
> :-), so...., Yazi, be prepared to get more love
> letters from secret admirers. :-)))
>
> The two pictures of mine were actully my recent
> pictures (2-3 years ago), which I posted onto my
> high-school alumni webpage, where the inside and
> outside of my house were shown. I know they are
> attacking us because they saw the house, that we
> work
> in a pretigeous pharm., they even estimated our
> annual
> income, and saying we were donating too little. but
> they didn't know we are actually donating annually
> through our company's donation program so the fund
> org. can get 100% match from Pfizer. But guess what,
> I
> got so disgusted about the discussion, it actually
> made me think that I probably won't donate any more
> in
> the future. I know it is bad thinking, but I am just
> so sick of it. What right do they have to finger
> point
> us! Forget it!!!
>
> I think it would be hard for them to find out who my
> boss is, because my boss just keeps changing. :-) I
> am
> going to meet my 5th boss (in 4 years) in the next
> month or so. Hopefully, they won't find HR, that's
> when I may get into trouble. Anyway, I will be
> prepared. These days, my Chinese colleagues keep
> asking me, why they are aftering us, what are they
> up
> to? That's exactly the thing I couldn't understand,
> what are they thinking when they do these mean
> things,
> just for fun? or they really believe they are
> someone,
> while in reality they are nobody? People! Ugly
> people!
>
> You all take care!
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No <sunwe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Hanlin
> > So so so sorry to make you all famous! :-( Be
> really
> > careful, those people can do anything. Digging out
> > the
> > info is 1st step, next they may do things more
> mean.
> > Like Jinya's boss got the anonymos letter saying
> she
> > was the suspect! You & Gang need to be very
> careful,
> > especially you, as somebody think you were the
> > roommate. Maybe you want to inform your boss
> ahead?
> > If he/she knows about cultural revolution, it's
> > easier
> > for them to understand, like Ya's boss. Anyway,
> you
> > decide yourself, but just get prepared...
> >
> > Don't be chou4 mei3 about the comment of being
> > "Liang4
> > li4" :-P
> > They won't stop doing mean things simply because
> you
> > are "Liang4 Li4".
> > BTW, maybe you want to share with us your "liang
> li"
> > picture in high-school? I haven't seen it before
> :-)
> > I also remembered I saw somewhere people found out
> > the
> > amount of Gang's denate to ZhuLing and people are
> > spreading virus words, saying it's too little etc.
> I
> > was sooo furious! How ugly people are!! Recently
> I'm
> > always surprised about this topic :(
> >
> > Back to your question, according to media, it's
> > lethal, I mean dose in ZL's blood.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Hanlin Li <liha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Sun Xiaozhu,
> > >
> > > I've searched a different database
> (OVID/MEDLINE)
> > > from
> > > Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> > > references
> > > don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> > > couple of papers of interest through our
> > > inter-library
> > > loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> > > striking information was obtained. The patients
> > > cited
> > > in most papers were administrated and treated in
> > > hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored
> for
> > > long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose
> > in
> > > Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure
> out
> > > again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
> > >
> > > Yazi,
> > >
> > > The attachements you sent in your earlier email,
> I
> > > can
> > > only open them at home (which doesn't help
> much).
> > I
> > > need to have the list of your hit references
> (was
> > it
> > > 300?) in some other format, so I can open them
> at
> > > work
> > > and do searches.
> > >
> > > Now my name is all over the place on internet, I
> > am
> > > the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> > > shocked at their "capability", they did a
> reverse
> > > search and find my current home address, my
> > pictures
> > > from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer
> > title,
> > > and even attached a satillite map of my house
> from
> > > google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the
> > bright
> > > side of it, as I found somebody referred me as
> the
> > > "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah?
> So,
> > > Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4
> > girl,
> > > as
> > > I was told someone has already digged out your
> > > picture
> > > from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> > > even
> > > know where it is. :-)
> > >
> > > I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is
> > now
> > > banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway,
> keep
> > me
> > > posted for anything new.
> > >
> > > Take care, all piglets.
> > >
> > > Hanlin
> > >
> > > --- Yes No <sunwe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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--- Yes No <sunwe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> sorry, wrong typing, it was "thethruth" to open it
>
> Merry Xmas!
>
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Dear Niangzi
Your comment is right!
1. For this point, I thought and thought, read and
read, have the same feeling as you do, so already
deleted from the doc. Although it's true, it will just
make it worse if it's from my mouth :(
2.Good point. And I decided to simplify this part
greatly to avoid people thinking negatively.
3.Simpson?! Niangzi, you have been abroad for toooooo
long! I mean 佘祥林!He was sentensed to death 11
years ago, later changed to Si3 Huan3, cos he was
suspected to have killed his wife. But his wife just
came back home 11 years later!
Have a nice day!
--- Jin Ya <jiny...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 娘子,
>
> 我看过第二版了,再提出几点意见,还是权作参考。
>
>
1。“...朱令也是校社团的积极分子。社团和团委的骨干成员有单独的宿舍楼,不分院系、年级,既没有熄灯和用电限制也不锁楼门,是大家聚会、活动的中心。朱令经常回宿舍很晚。她第一次中毒后返校期间仍然每天中午去社团或团委煎药,据她自己说也有时是别人提前帮她煎好了的。”这一段如果写得再圆滑一点就好了,象加个“举个例子来说”,“比如说”这样的词句。如果我是不知情的人,很可能会觉得你在暗示这个情况和中毒有密切关系,如果不是你的本意的话,可能会有一些反面作用。看你的考虑。
>
>
2。你爷爷那一段,我觉得挺好的。不过能不能稍微表达一下你爷爷出身贫寒,自己奋斗成材的意思,反正就是别让人觉得你们家是那种大的“世家”,有很多人罩着的那种。
>
>
3。“前不久的xxx杀妻案为什么会被判刑?就是因为“死者”家属有怀疑,而且又找到了一具女尸,看似证据确凿,而xxx又拿不出证据证明自己无罪。其实这也是许多未破案件时一些被怀疑人遇到的共同问题。”看到这一段我是想到了你说的应该是"Simpson"的案子,但我的印象不深,google以后才了解了详情和最后判决,但其他人会不会也能立刻想到?不过也许国内新闻曾广泛报道过?另外,我google后的感觉是这个案子实在太复杂了,所以好多人好像还是对Simpson到底杀妻没有心存疑虑。再让你家里人帮你参谋参谋,别起到了反作用。
>
>
我觉得你写得挺好的,这些意见都是我尽量站在不知情人的角度上吹毛求疵的结果:)。我和其他小猪的担心一样,写得再好,也会有人故意或不故意地曲解。而且这两天我在想,如果是朱家刻意地散布这些谣言,可能就是为了把你逼出来,现在也算达到了目的了,sigh。不过也没法再躲了。但你一定要做好心理准备,要我们帮忙的尽管说,另外怎么发表,从什么渠道,多少网站开始,还有对可能发生情况的应对(来自朱家,公安什么的),也要做好准备。虽然我知道你家里人和xxx肯定已经帮你想到了,还是忍不住多个嘴:P.
>
> 好了,正经事说完了,祝各个小猪圣诞快乐,新年好!
>
> --- Yes No <sunwe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > sorry, wrong typing, it was "thethruth" to open it
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> > Merry Xmas!
> >
> >
> >
> >
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the same password as usual.
happy new year!
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this is what I was working on when Hanlin called.
I will reply to Bei's statement first.
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Help to check and look if anything I need missed.
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my comment for your reference.
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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:25:03 +0800
So early?
I heard qizi said you will go back on Jan. 16th so, I am thinking of
calling you this weekend. Sigh! Am I mis-understand?
Recently, my colleagues asked me serveral times about Zhuling. It looks
the
influence of article "Tian Du" is far enough. I didn't tell them I am
her
classmate. As the looker-on, they are only curious, I think. And I
don't
want to make more curiosity. :(
Gao
Hanlin Li
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Jin
01/12/2006 05:58 Ya <jiny...@yahoo.com>, Fei
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I am back to reality
Dear piglets,
I am back to US now, again, I am having post-vacation
trauma. No matter how long I stayed at home, it always
seems too short.
Qizi, I really miss you. I had so much fun hanging out
with you guys. Thank you for the gift, it was really
nice of you. And tell P4 I missed him too. hahaha...
:-)
Sun Xiaozhu, I am really sorry that I didn't really
keep up with the progress on internet after I got to
Shanghai. I felt really guilty for having fun while
you were suffering. So what's new now? any
instructions for what's next? Is your life easier
after the post?
Are you gals still MSN everyday?
Hanlin
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:16:55 -0800 (PST)
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Girls
I don't know how to express my feeling except by
repeating that I'm so moved -- I know I'm not good at
expression feelings :-P although I'm good at being
ironic :-P
Anyway, this is the most memorable "re-union" I had!
Hanlin, never feel bad that you enjoyed your life in
SH -- we all know it even if you don't say a word :-D
-- you are still the same you :-P
And I'm still the same me -- I will also enjoy my life
-- The more they want to torture me, I more I will
live better and enjoy more about life!
An update to you all about current situation:
Zhu's Mom has started raising this issue to new papers
and magazines, and Sina and Sohu reported on the 1st
page.
I'm pretty sure that she will start to target TV soon.
BTW, yesterday the journalist is already calling my
parents home (they get the number from Zhu's family)
and asked to interview me. My dad rejected, but maybe
they will quote my dad's word saying that he rejected
to be interviewed etc. Who knows.
Now, seriously, I do need your help! Cos I'm prepared
either to be exposed by media, or sue them.
And I do need your support to clarify something.
1. Zhu's mom told the journalist that I envy her
daughter and 挑拨朱和另一个舍友的关系, don't know who
though.
So I need the official confirmation from wang qi and
jin ya that I never 挑拨你们和朱的关系。of cause she
can still insist that her daughter said so, but it
will be quite weak, cos if sb want to 挑拨, it should
be from both sides.
2. Zhu's mom told skyoneline (in page 20 of my
statement) that 我造谣说朱社交广泛 while in fact she
was not.
I need also the official confirmation from you all,
and from your own respect, saying that zhu does have
broad social activities, and often doesn't particiapte
class activities.
belle and Hanlin can also, if you still remember,
confirm that zhu is always back to dorm very late,
i.e., when we had fun in our dorm after 晚自习, she is
normally not there.
if you still remember that she sometimes don't even
come back,can say it, but if you don't remember, just
don't say.
Wangqi and Ya, for you two piglets, I need the confirm
from your side that she was always back very late, up
to 12, and sometimes not coming back at all.
I know it's very bad to say it, and that's why in the
past we never tell something like this. but now her
mother is pushing for this and I simply have no choice
at all :-(
Could you?
3. Her mom also said to skyoneline that the "coffee
cup" Bei described was true!
So, need you 2 to confirm again :(
I'm very sorry that all these statements have to be
with your real name.
And I do understand the concern... --- if her family
is this mad, they may hate you all as well if you said
sth for me and again them.
So, absolutely fine if you have the concern. and
absolutely if you can't do it :-)
Anyway, all the best wishes to of the piglets, and
piglets' hbs & bf :)
Wei
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Dear niangzi,
And I also notice there is a person who said he/she is your
neighborhood
and write out your parents' address.
Busy day. Write to you later.
Gao
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Girls
I don't know how to express my feeling except by
repeating that I'm so moved -- I know I'm not good at
expression feelings :-P although I'm good at being
ironic :-P
Anyway, this is the most memorable "re-union" I had!
Hanlin, never feel bad that you enjoyed your life in
SH -- we all know it even if you don't say a word :-D
-- you are still the same you :-P
And I'm still the same me -- I will also enjoy my life
-- The more they want to torture me, I more I will
live better and enjoy more about life!
An update to you all about current situation:
Zhu's Mom has started raising this issue to new papers
and magazines, and Sina and Sohu reported on the 1st
page.
I'm pretty sure that she will start to target TV soon.
BTW, yesterday the journalist is already calling my
parents home (they get the number from Zhu's family)
and asked to interview me. My dad rejected, but maybe
they will quote my dad's word saying that he rejected
to be interviewed etc. Who knows.
Now, seriously, I do need your help! Cos I'm prepared
either to be exposed by media, or sue them.
And I do need your support to clarify something.
1. Zhu's mom told the journalist that I envy her
daughter and 挑拨朱和另一个舍友的关系, don't know who
though.
So I need the official confirmation from wang qi and
jin ya that I never 挑拨你们和朱的关系。of cause she
can still insist that her daughter said so, but it
will be quite weak, cos if sb want to 挑拨, it should
be from both sides.
2. Zhu's mom told skyoneline (in page 20 of my
statement) that 我造谣说朱社交广泛 while in fact she
was not.
I need also the official confirmation from you all,
and from your own respect, saying that zhu does have
broad social activities, and often doesn't particiapte
class activities.
belle and Hanlin can also, if you still remember,
confirm that zhu is always back to dorm very late,
i.e., when we had fun in our dorm after 晚自习, she is
normally not there.
if you still remember that she sometimes don't even
come back,can say it, but if you don't remember, just
don't say.
Wangqi and Ya, for you two piglets, I need the confirm
from your side that she was always back very late, up
to 12, and sometimes not coming back at all.
I know it's very bad to say it, and that's why in the
past we never tell something like this. but now her
mother is pushing for this and I simply have no choice
at all :-(
Could you?
3. Her mom also said to skyoneline that the "coffee
cup" Bei described was true!
So, need you 2 to confirm again :(
I'm very sorry that all these statements have to be
with your real name.
And I do understand the concern... --- if her family
is this mad, they may hate you all as well if you said
sth for me and again them.
So, absolutely fine if you have the concern. and
absolutely if you can't do it :-)
Anyway, all the best wishes to of the piglets, and
piglets' hbs & bf :)
Wei
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Sorry, niangzi, I will speak in a frank way here, hope
you don't mind: As I told xxx yesterday, I am
willing to help, for sure. My concern is that you
will speak to media first? I am somewhat afraid it
will finally develop to a mouth fighting (da3 zui3
zhang4), like on Tianya. If to Gong-an, I have no
problem to give my statement; but to media, I suggest
you have a more thorough consideration, it may finally
be a bigger and wider mess and be no real help for
solving the problem. Of course, niangzi, if finally
no way but only fighting through media, I will stand
out to clarify those point.
Best regards,
Jin
PS: Hanlin's dream is also my dream~~~a very
handsome..., but it is just a dream, have to admit :P.
Hanlin, I guess you bought many good stuff in
Shanghai? How about the foods there?
--- Yes No <sunwe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Girls
> I don't know how to express my feeling except by
> repeating that I'm so moved -- I know I'm not good
> at
> expression feelings :-P although I'm good at being
> ironic :-P
> Anyway, this is the most memorable "re-union" I had!
>
> Hanlin, never feel bad that you enjoyed your life in
> SH -- we all know it even if you don't say a word
> :-D
> -- you are still the same you :-P
> And I'm still the same me -- I will also enjoy my
> life
> -- The more they want to torture me, I more I will
> live better and enjoy more about life!
>
> An update to you all about current situation:
> Zhu's Mom has started raising this issue to new
> papers
> and magazines, and Sina and Sohu reported on the 1st
> page.
> I'm pretty sure that she will start to target TV
> soon.
> BTW, yesterday the journalist is already calling my
> parents home (they get the number from Zhu's family)
> and asked to interview me. My dad rejected, but
> maybe
> they will quote my dad's word saying that he
> rejected
> to be interviewed etc. Who knows.
>
> Now, seriously, I do need your help! Cos I'm
> prepared
> either to be exposed by media, or sue them.
> And I do need your support to clarify something.
>
> 1. Zhu's mom told the journalist that I envy her
> daughter and 挑拨謥E土桓錾嵊训墓叵? don't know
> who
> though.
> So I need the official confirmation from wang qi and
> jin ya that I never 挑拨你们和謥E墓叵怠f cause she
> can still insist that her daughter said so, but it
> will be quite weak, cos if sb want to 挑拨, it
> should
> be from both sides.
>
> 2. Zhu's mom told skyoneline (in page 20 of my
> statement) that 我詠Eニ抵丒缃还惴?while in fact she
> was not.
> I need also the official confirmation from you all,
> and from your own respect, saying that zhu does have
> broad social activities, and often doesn't
> particiapte
> class activities.
> belle and Hanlin can also, if you still remember,
> confirm that zhu is always back to dorm very late,
> i.e., when we had fun in our dorm after 旺笤习, she
> is
> normally not there.
> if you still remember that she sometimes don't even
> come back,can say it, but if you don't remember,
> just
> don't say.
>
> Wangqi and Ya, for you two piglets, I need the
> confirm
> from your side that she was always back very late,
> up
> to 12, and sometimes not coming back at all.
>
> I know it's very bad to say it, and that's why in
> the
> past we never tell something like this. but now her
> mother is pushing for this and I simply have no
> choice
> at all :-(
>
> Could you?
>
> 3. Her mom also said to skyoneline that the "coffee
> cup" Bei described was true!
> So, need you 2 to confirm again :(
>
>
> I'm very sorry that all these statements have to be
> with your real name.
> And I do understand the concern... --- if her family
> is this mad, they may hate you all as well if you
> said
> sth for me and again them.
>
> So, absolutely fine if you have the concern. and
> absolutely if you can't do it :-)
>
> Anyway, all the best wishes to of the piglets, and
> piglets' hbs & bf :)
>
> Wei
>
>
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Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:21:54 -0800 (PST)
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Girls,
I finally find out that now there is no sense to spend
further time on internet cos there are sooooooo many
virius people there. Our words are already out, normal
people will take it, and that’s what we expect. For
the mad dogs, just let them bark.
My family will follow the internet. If they find out
really some critical things and need your help, I will
let you know, either wise, no need to pay attention on
it.
One thing I really need your help urgently is the Tl
papers. As I’m busy with the letters to police, not
much time. So could you pls help with the papers. :(
你们有空帮着看看文献并翻译吗?
不用全翻!我们感兴趣的只是:有没有可能是一次中毒。
估计很少有2次中毒的case,所以如果是一次中毒的文章,只需要看一下中毒后如果没有及时(2-3个月)治疗的症状,如果提前治疗了的文章就可以仍一边根本不用看了。
如果看到2-3个月没有治疗的case,不论是否支持我们希望的结论,都请把相关时间—症状部分翻译一下,并翻译一下患者的年龄、性别、体质/身体状况等。
金亚帮着查了一堆文献,xxx分发一下,能分头处理一下吗?俺俩忙晕了,还有好多文章要写:(
many thanks!
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刚在天涯上看见“李含琳”发的帖子"请大家放过薛刚,谢谢!"
It says:
“这个世界上不会有无缘无故的爱,也不会有无缘无故的恨。他说过什么,做过什么,一定都是有原因的;但是有一点,他不是坏人,我也不是,我们都没有坏心,请大家放过他,放过我们一家。
11年过去了,该消失的早已消失,网络上再声势浩大,也不过是虚拟的东西,为什么还要紧紧咬住不放呢?如果真的有人下毒,这些年来她必定也不好过,为什么一定要掀什么来呢?
我不知道继续下去会有什么结果。我只想安安静静地做一个普通的人。请大家放过我们吧,谢谢!”
He/she first pretent to look like real hanlin, and the
next step, I guess, is to say something really bad.
here it already started to imply that if I am the
murderer, i must have already suffered these years, so
let me go. And in the future, all "your" words or
words from classmates could be interpretated as they
are helping me to escape from the punishment even if i
am the murderer, cos I have already suffered a lot. SO
MEAN!!!
So it's quite clear that there is no sense to spend
further time on internet cos there are sooooooo many
virius people there. Our words are already out, normal
people will take it, and that’s what we expect. For
the mad dogs, just let them bark.
My family will follow the interne更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
Attached in this post is a long email among these "suspects", whom I don't think are the criminal masterminds at all after reading through this email. Any way, people, you can look at it too and comment your own opinions. it does not necessary to be the same as mine.
--- Hanlin Li <liha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sorry I haven't checked my home emails for days. I
> was
> back to the hectic life at work, had to work
> overtime
> on Friday. Well, the vacation is over, indeed.
>
> Anyway, Gang and I will do some more literature
> search, and hopefully come up with something useful.
>
> Just now, Gang is talking with someone we don't know
> on the phone. looks like the situation is really bad
> now, they dig out everything about us, they know our
> home phone number, address, where we work, even know
> we came back to US on Jan. 9 (Belle doesn't even
> know
> that!). what worries me now is that wangqi and jinya
> won't be hidden for long. Anyway, we all need to be
> prepared for the worst.
>
> Sun xiaozhu, did you post another statement on the
> internet around Jan. 8? are you solicting the
> engagement of police system? I need to know what
> your
> position is. Could you forward that statement to me
> and Gang?
>
> Talk to you later. I may need to give you a call
> some
> time. should I still use your parents' number?
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No <sunwe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Hanlin,
> > I just found today on Sina, in Wu Hong fei's blog,
> > she
> > reported Zhu's case, and in the reply, i find
> > somebody
> > pretending to be Xue Gang as well.
> >
> > 回复 网易网友(222.32.112.*):
> >
>
清华物化2班的的朱令的同学们,你们真的就都是些自私自利见利忘义的小人?就没有一个
> >
>
象贝志成那样敢于说话吗?这是清华的悲哀!这是清华的悲哀!这是清华的悲哀!这是清
> >
>
华的悲哀!这是清华的悲哀!这是清华的悲哀!这是清华的悲哀!这是清华的悲哀!这是
> >
>
清华的悲哀!这是清华的悲哀!这是清华的悲哀!!!!!清华的同学门,你们还有良心
> > 吗,不做噩梦吗????
> >
> >
>
我是物化2班的团支书,我真的不忍心看到有关朱朱的所有东西,这些年来我一直生活在自责于内疚之中,我不知道我该怎么做,其实这件事要真的查出真相一点都不难,国务院督办!我能说的就是当年朱朱第二次中毒孙维被传的时候,院领导和系部召开了一次很秘密的会议,我是唯一一个参加会议的在校学生,也许他们知道通知我开会是个很大的错误,当中讲了一会儿的时候系主任叫我回去了,但我在我所在场的18分钟内,我已经知道内容大概了,我的任务是事件保密和按护全班同学,不准单独核查和不准猜测议论,在会议中提到是孙主席指示的,而且有关方面在为维维准备出国手续,后来我知道是孙浮林。
> >
> >
> >
>
到这里大家心理也很清楚,这件事如果中央不出面的话,在中国目前这个体制里,朱朱事件只有沉冤!!!光凭一个贝志诚是不够的。
> >
> >
>
这些年我没有站出来,我有我的苦衷,包括我们2班所有同学。我们经常会收到拿我们自己性命和家人性命以及工作等等相关的威胁!株连九族大家或许只在电视上见过,可这些随时可以发生在我们2班同学身上。
> >
> >
>
我希望中央能真的重视这个案件,还朱朱一个公道。就是高院和高检都没办法的,只有中央!!!
> >
> >
> > So you couple are both used :-P
> >
> > Kidding, I think now the situation is really very
> > bad.
> > People are much worse than I thought. But in stead
> > of
> > getting angry, like couple of weeks ago, I feel
> > amused, strange hum? These people are too dirty
> for
> > me
> > to be angry with them :)
> >
> > So girls, i think we don't need further clarify
> > things
> > on internet, unless something really important
> > pop-up
> > -- I doubt though. Anyway, my family is
> monitering.
> > So let's live our normal life.
> > If for something I need help, i will shout :-)
> >
> > So basically, the help I needed from you all:
> > 1. Paper related: Ya and Hanlin couple -- "tasks"
> > already sent in another mail :-P
> >
> > 2. the supporting letter I previously sent out --
> > less
> > urgent than above paper, so take your time :-)
> >
> >
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You know what? This morning my professor, in
surprise, showed me an anonymous email saying I am a
suspect of a poisoning case and asking for my contact
address. (email address is a newly registered "zhu
guan" and the gxzl...@yahoo.com, guess should be 朱关
and 关心朱令).
I guess this should be from a person who know I am the
roommate. The good point is they don't know I am
still in the same lab (since the lab's homepage
doesn't include my name), or they may be more crazy to
do something. My professor of course thinks it's
ridiculous and trusts me, dont worry.
Things are getting so messy, I also read a guy
pretending to be qizi, while giving the Ph.D thesis
title of that male wangqi's to prove he/she is real
wangqi. Faint to death.
--- Hanlin Li <liha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sun Xiaozhu,
>
> Don't feel bad, I was digged out mainly because of
> Gang, as the wife of Zhi1 Shu1. And like you said,
> it
> made me feel much safer than you guys because I am
> in
> US, they can't do much about me. If there were
> anything outrageous happened, I could seek law
> enforcement. Looks like now they think WQ and I live
> in the same room with you, so yazi may be safe for a
> while. It was our careless mistake that we didn't
> change our phone number after we move to the current
> address. We thought it would be easier for the
> people
> we knew to keep in touch with us. Well, guess what!
> Anyway, I have a caller id at home, so I can filter
> calls and won't take unrecognized calls.
>
> FYI, here is my contact information:
>
> Home phone: (860) 437-7804
> Cell: (860) 235-0671
> Gang's cell: (860) 912-5392
>
> During my working hours (your night time), you may
> want to send emails to my pfizer email:
> hanl...@pfizer.com, so I can get it instantly. I
> don't check my personal email that often at work.
>
> TAKE CARE,
>
> Hanlin
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Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:25:06 -0800 (PST)
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<jiny...@yahoo.com>, "Qi Wang" <w...@gffunds.com.cn>
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Hanlin
So so so sorry to make you all famous! :-( Be really
careful, those people can do anything. Digging out the
info is 1st step, next they may do things more mean.
Like Jinya's boss got the anonymos letter saying she
was the suspect! You & Gang need to be very careful,
especially you, as somebody think you were the
roommate. Maybe you want to inform your boss ahead?
If he/she knows about cultural revolution, it's easier
for them to understand, like Ya's boss. Anyway, you
decide yourself, but just get prepared...
Don't be chou4 mei3 about the comment of being "Liang4
li4" :-P
They won't stop doing mean things simply because you
are "Liang4 Li4".
BTW, maybe you want to share with us your "liang li"
picture in high-school? I haven't seen it before :-)
I also remembered I saw somewhere people found out the
amount of Gang's denate to ZhuLing and people are
spreading virus words, saying it's too little etc. I
was sooo furious! How ugly people are!! Recently I'm
always surprised about this topic :(
Back to your question, according to media, it's
lethal, I mean dose in ZL's blood.
--- Hanlin Li <liha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sun Xiaozhu,
>
> I've searched a different database (OVID/MEDLINE)
> from
> Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> references
> don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> couple of papers of interest through our
> inter-library
> loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> striking information was obtained. The patients
> cited
> in most papers were administrated and treated in
> hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored for
> long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose in
> Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure out
> again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
>
> Yazi,
>
> The attachements you sent in your earlier email, I
> can
> only open them at home (which doesn't help much). I
> need to have the list of your hit references (was it
> 300?) in some other format, so I can open them at
> work
> and do searches.
>
> Now my name is all over the place on internet, I am
> the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> shocked at their "capability", they did a reverse
> search and find my current home address, my pictures
> from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer title,
> and even attached a satillite map of my house from
> google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the bright
> side of it, as I found somebody referred me as the
> "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah? So,
> Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4 girl,
> as
> I was told someone has already digged out your
> picture
> from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> even
> know where it is. :-)
>
> I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is now
> banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway, keep me
> posted for anything new.
>
> Take care, all piglets.
>
> Hanlin
>
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Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:33:33 -0800 (PST)
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To: "Hanlin Li" <liha...@yahoo.com>, "Fei Gao"
<rita...@sz.chn.tuv.com>, "Hanlin Li" <han...@snet.net>, "Qi Wang"
<w...@gffunds.com.cn>, "sun wei" <sunwe...@yahoo.com>
Oh, yes? Somebody digged out my photo from my lab's
homepage? I am sure it was removed last year after
the previous scholarship ended. So somebody saved the
old page even that early? I am somewhat shocked. En,
anyway, though I am sure they won't saying me "liang4
li4", don't say me "man3 lian3 heng2 rou4" like poor
sun niangzi, :)).
About the format of list of my hit references, the
format I saved can't be open in ur office? If you
mean the 200 papers' (the first 10 pages of my
searching hits) info., I am attaching it here the txt
format file, though many of them are not very useful.
--- Hanlin Li <liha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sun Xiaozhu,
>
> I've searched a different database (OVID/MEDLINE)
> from
> Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> references
> don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> couple of papers of interest through our
> inter-library
> loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> striking information was obtained. The patients
> cited
> in most papers were administrated and treated in
> hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored for
> long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose in
> Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure out
> again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
>
> Yazi,
>
> The attachements you sent in your earlier email, I
> can
> only open them at home (which doesn't help much). I
> need to have the list of your hit references (was it
> 300?) in some other format, so I can open them at
> work
> and do searches.
>
> Now my name is all over the place on internet, I am
> the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> shocked at their "capability", they did a reverse
> search and find my current home address, my pictures
> from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer title,
> and even attached a satillite map of my house from
> google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the bright
> side of it, as I found somebody referred me as the
> "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah? So,
> Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4 girl,
> as
> I was told someone has already digged out your
> picture
> from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> even
> know where it is. :-)
>
> I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is now
> banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway, keep me
> posted for anything new.
>
> Take care, all piglets.
>
> Hanlin
>
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> >
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attach16_by_jinya_list in txt.txt
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:55:01 -0800 (PST)
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To: "Hanlin Li" <liha...@yahoo.com>, "Fei Gao"
<rita...@sz.chn.tuv.com>, "Hanlin Li" <han...@snet.net>, "Qi Wang"
<w...@gffunds.com.cn>, "sun wei" <sunwe...@yahoo.com>
hehehe, agree with Hanlin, they are really "capable"
of digging out others' privacy. I found they deduced
me to be "tai yang zheng nuan", quite reasonable, :)
http://www.is4u.net/gta4/news.aspx?nid=4635 (except my
publication list only gives those rubbish ones I
wrote, qie~~~ :P), if the link is still there when u
read.
by the way, I saw:
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作者:webmaster 提交日期:2006-1-19 12:06:00
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2006-1-19
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So the Gong-an will finally do something? Really hope
so, I feel really need the authorized dept to say
something.
--- Hanlin Li <liha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sun Xiaozhu,
>
> I've searched a different database (OVID/MEDLINE)
> from
> Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> references
> don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> couple of papers of interest through our
> inter-library
> loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> striking information was obtained. The patients
> cited
> in most papers were administrated and treated in
> hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored for
> long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose in
> Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure out
> again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
>
> Yazi,
>
> The attachements you sent in your earlier email, I
> can
> only open them at home (which doesn't help much). I
> need to have the list of your hit references (was it
> 300?) in some other format, so I can open them at
> work
> and do searches.
>
> Now my name is all over the place on internet, I am
> the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> shocked at their "capability", they did a reverse
> search and find my current home address, my pictures
> from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer title,
> and even attached a satillite map of my house from
> google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the bright
> side of it, as I found somebody referred me as the
> "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah? So,
> Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4 girl,
> as
> I was told someone has already digged out your
> picture
> from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> even
> know where it is. :-)
>
> I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is now
> banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway, keep me
> posted for anything new.
>
> Take care, all piglets.
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No <sunwe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
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> >
>
>
Subject: Re: BTW, pls include xxx for this discussion
To: "Jin Ya" <jiny...@yahoo.com>
CC: "Hanlin Li" <han...@snet.net>, "Hanlin Li" <liha...@yahoo.com>,
"sun wei" <sunwe...@yahoo.com>, "Qi Wang" <w...@gffunds.com.cn>
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Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:39:51 +0800
Dear meizi,
I have not noticed what you wrote in the following e-mail. I just
noticed
tianya has banned this topic. It made me happy because some id is
really
mean and the discussion is absolutely bullshit and nonsense.
These days I am a little busy so not to talk with you by msn, sorry for
it.
Also sorry for niangzi that I didn't help in looking through the
documents.
:(
Talk to you later.
TAKE CARE, PIGLETS!
Gao
Jin Ya
<jinyajane@yahoo.
com>
To
Hanlin Li <liha...@yahoo.com>,
Fei
01/20/2006 11:55 Gao <rita...@sz.chn.tuv.com>,
AM Hanlin Li <han...@snet.net>, Qi
Wang <w...@gffunds.com.cn>, sun
wei
<sunwe...@yahoo.com>
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discussion
hehehe, agree with Hanlin, they are really "capable"
of digging out others' privacy. I found they deduced
me to be "tai yang zheng nuan", quite reasonable, :)
http://www.is4u.net/gta4/news.aspx?nid=4635 (except my
publication list only gives those rubbish ones I
wrote, qie~~~ :P), if the link is still there when u
read.
by the way, I saw:
『天涯杂谈』 暂停“朱令铊中毒事件”讨论的通知
作者:webmaster 提交日期:2006-1-19 12:06:00
为有利于事件的顺利解决,有关“朱令铊中毒事件”话
题暂停讨论,敬请各位网友配合。
特此通知
2006-1-19
--------------------------------
So the Gong-an will finally do something? Really hope
so, I feel really need the authorized dept to say
something.
--- Hanlin Li <liha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sun Xiaozhu,
>
> I've searched a different database (OVID/MEDLINE)
> from
> Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> references
> don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> couple of papers of interest through our
> inter-library
> loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> striking information was obtained. The patients
> cited
> in most papers were administrated and treated in
> hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored for
> long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose in
> Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure out
> again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
>
> Yazi,
>
> The attachements you sent in your earlier email, I
> can
> only open them at home (which doesn't help much). I
> need to have the list of your hit references (was it
> 300?) in some other format, so I can open them at
> work
> and do searches.
>
> Now my name is all over the place on internet, I am
> the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> shocked at their "capability", they did a reverse
> search and find my current home address, my pictures
> from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer title,
> and even attached a satillite map of my house from
> google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the bright
> side of it, as I found somebody referred me as the
> "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah? So,
> Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4 girl,
> as
> I was told someone has already digged out your
> picture
> from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> even
> know where it is. :-)
>
> I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is now
> banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway, keep me
> posted for anything new.
>
> Take care, all piglets.
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No <sunwe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:20:04 -0800 (PST)
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It's a surprise to see Jin Niangzi have actually
published so many papers!! :-) Surprise surprise, I
thought she only spend the time playing around in
Tsinghua :-D
BTW, Niangzi, your picture from lab is quite good
looking :-) Absolutely not "man3 lian3 heng2 rou4"
like me :"(
Yesterday I still saw a lot of posts on Tianya, and
people are again posting my previous work and my
parents home etc. To be frank I don't know why Tianya
suddenly stopped. I don't think it's police, cos in
Sina and many other sites it's still very hot. Why
they only stop Tianya then? If, IF, it's really Gong
An, want to carm down this thing, they again proved
themselves to be stupid, only find Tianya and ignored
other sites? As stupid as before when they are
investigating Zhu Ling's case!
Anyway, TAKE CARE all!
Wei
--- Jin Ya <jiny...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> hehehe, agree with Hanlin, they are really "capable"
> of digging out others' privacy. I found they
> deduced
> me to be "tai yang zheng nuan", quite reasonable, :)
> http://www.is4u.net/gta4/news.aspx?nid=4635 (except
> my
> publication list only gives those rubbish ones I
> wrote, qie~~~ :P), if the link is still there when u
> read.
>
> by the way, I saw:
>
> 『天涯杂谈』 暂停“朱令铊中毒事件”讨论的通知
>
>
> 作者:webmaster 提交日期:2006-1-19 12:06:00
>
>
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>
>
>
> 特此通知
> 2006-1-19
> --------------------------------
>
> So the Gong-an will finally do something? Really
> hope
> so, I feel really need the authorized dept to say
> something.
>
> --- Hanlin Li <liha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Sun Xiaozhu,
> >
> > I've searched a different database (OVID/MEDLINE)
> > from
> > Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> > references
> > don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> > couple of papers of interest through our
> > inter-library
> > loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> > striking information was obtained. The patients
> > cited
> > in most papers were administrated and treated in
> > hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored for
> > long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose
> in
> > Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure out
> > again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
> >
> > Yazi,
> >
> > The attachements you sent in your earlier email, I
> > can
> > only open them at home (which doesn't help much).
> I
> > need to have the list of your hit references (was
> it
> > 300?) in some other format, so I can open them at
> > work
> > and do searches.
> >
> > Now my name is all over the place on internet, I
> am
> > the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> > shocked at their "capability", they did a reverse
> > search and find my current home address, my
> pictures
> > from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer
> title,
> > and even attached a satillite map of my house from
> > google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the
> bright
> > side of it, as I found somebody referred me as the
> > "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah? So,
> > Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4
> girl,
> > as
> > I was told someone has already digged out your
> > picture
> > from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> > even
> > know where it is. :-)
> >
> > I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is
> now
> > banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway, keep
> me
> > posted for anything new.
> >
> > Take care, all piglets.
> >
> > Hanlin
> >
> > --- Yes No <sunwe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> __________________________________________________
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > > protection around
> > > http://mail.yahoo.com
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:18:49 -0800 (PST)
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The topic is still hot in sina and other websites ?
fuuuuuuuuu, disappointed. I thought a big action will
be made by our police uncles, :(, seems they are
really nuts.
Thanks for comforting~~~, belle and niangzi, but
really, ignore those stupid publications, every
chinese papers I wrote was rubbish, :P (wang xiaozhu
will understand immediately :)) )
You take care, too! Have a good weekend!
--- rita...@sz.chn.tuv.com wrote:
> I have looked through that article just now and
> agree with Sun xiaozhu.
> Hehe, the picture looks nice.
>
> Actually, the information they digged out let me
> know you are so excellent!
> Cheers! :)
>
> TAKE CARE, ALL!
>
> Gao
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes No
>
> <sunweihere@yahoo
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> To
> Jin Ya
> <jiny...@yahoo.com>,
> 01/20/2006 02:20 Hanlin Li
> <liha...@yahoo.com>, Fei
> PM Gao
> <rita...@sz.chn.tuv.com>,
> Hanlin Li
> <han...@snet.net>, Qi
> Wang
> <w...@gffunds.com.cn>
>
> cc
>
>
>
> Subject
> Re: BTW, pls
> include xxx for this
> discussion
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It's a surprise to see Jin Niangzi have actually
> published so many papers!! :-) Surprise surprise, I
> thought she only spend the time playing around in
> Tsinghua :-D
>
> BTW, Niangzi, your picture from lab is quite good
> looking :-) Absolutely not "man3 lian3 heng2 rou4"
> like me :"(
>
> Yesterday I still saw a lot of posts on Tianya, and
> people are again posting my previous work and my
> parents home etc. To be frank I don't know why
> Tianya
> suddenly stopped. I don't think it's police, cos in
> Sina and many other sites it's still very hot. Why
> they only stop Tianya then? If, IF, it's really Gong
> An, want to carm down this thing, they again proved
> themselves to be stupid, only find Tianya and
> ignored
> other sites? As stupid as before when they are
> investigating Zhu Ling's case!
>
> Anyway, TAKE CARE all!
>
> Wei
>
> --- Jin Ya <jiny...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > hehehe, agree with Hanlin, they are really
> "capable"
> > of digging out others' privacy. I found they
> > deduced
> > me to be "tai yang zheng nuan", quite reasonable,
> :)
> > http://www.is4u.net/gta4/news.aspx?nid=4635
> (except
> > my
> > publication list only gives those rubbish ones I
> > wrote, qie~~~ :P), if the link is still there when
> u
> > read.
> >
> > by the way, I saw:
> >
> > 『虂E脑犹浮?暂停“謥E丒柚卸臼录碧致鄣耐ㄖ?> >
> >
> > 作者:webmaster 提交日期:2006-1-19 12:06:00
> >
> >
> 为有利于事件的顺利解决,有关“謥E丒柚卸臼录被?> 题暂停讨论,敬莵E魑煌雅浜稀?> >
> >
> >
> > 特此通知
> > 2006-1-19
> > --------------------------------
> >
> > So the Gong-an will finally do something? Really
> > hope
> > so, I feel really need the authorized dept to say
> > something.
> >
> > --- Hanlin Li <liha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Sun Xiaozhu,
> > >
> > > I've searched a different database
> (OVID/MEDLINE)
> > > from
> > > Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> > > references
> > > don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> > > couple of papers of interest through our
> > > inter-library
> > > loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> > > striking information was obtained. The patients
> > > cited
> > > in most papers were administrated and treated in
> > > hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored
> for
> > > long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose
> > in
> > > Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure
> out
> > > again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
> > >
> > > Yazi,
> > >
> > > The attachements you sent in your earlier email,
> I
> > > can
> > > only open them at home (which doesn't help
> much).
> > I
> > > need to have the list of your hit references
> (was
> > it
> > > 300?) in some other format, so I can open them
> at
> > > work
> > > and do searches.
> > >
> > > Now my name is all over the place on internet, I
> > am
> > > the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> > > shocked at their "capability", they did a
> reverse
> > > search and find my current home address, my
> > pictures
> > > from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer
> > title,
> > > and even attached a satillite map of my house
> from
> > > google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the
> > bright
> > > side of it, as I found somebody referred me as
> the
> > > "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah?
> So,
> > > Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4
> > girl,
> > > as
> > > I was told someone has already digged out your
> > > picture
> > > from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> > > even
> > > know where it is. :-)
> > >
> > > I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is
> > now
> > > banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway,
> keep
> > me
> > > posted for anything new.
> > >
> > > Take care, all piglets.
> > >
> > > Hanlin
> > >
> > > --- Yes No <sunwe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
>
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Hanlin,
I VERY VERY much agree with you: I always talk with
xxx, how ugly human nature can be when they don't need
to be responsible!
I also talked with my brother about what they did to
you, you know what my brother said? He was very angry
and said you should claim back the money, including
the interest! :-P
I fully understand your feeling -- I also feel so
discusting when read it. I have to say you are very
nice and still think it's not a good idea, if I were
you, i will never donate anymore. It's not about the
money at all, it's the feeling. I just hate my
kindness being USED by ugly people!
Hanlin
One thing I think we should do now is, I also told
other piglets, to collect materials and "evidence"
that these people are mad, and they are doing crazy
things just to po4 hai4 us. I don't know exactly how
are we going to use the material yet, but it doesn't
harm to collect it.
So could you pls collect these virus message / people/
ID, save the content so that it's readable offline
even if they delete it one day, or screenshot as well.
For those bad things, i.e., hurting your private
life/privacy, work, curse, virus words, so something
like saying we are he2 mou2 murdering etc.
Collect them now.
One good side benifit is that if you think of this
purpose, you no longer get angry when reading those
posts :-) It works on me quite well :)
Again, take care!
--- Hanlin Li <liha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Agree with all, that Yazi's does look great in the
> picture, free advertisement! and I wouldn't be
> surprised that they find out Yazi is still
> available.
> :-), so...., Yazi, be prepared to get more love
> letters from secret admirers. :-)))
>
> The two pictures of mine were actully my recent
> pictures (2-3 years ago), which I posted onto my
> high-school alumni webpage, where the inside and
> outside of my house were shown. I know they are
> attacking us because they saw the house, that we
> work
> in a pretigeous pharm., they even estimated our
> annual
> income, and saying we were donating too little. but
> they didn't know we are actually donating annually
> through our company's donation program so the fund
> org. can get 100% match from Pfizer. But guess what,
> I
> got so disgusted about the discussion, it actually
> made me think that I probably won't donate any more
> in
> the future. I know it is bad thinking, but I am just
> so sick of it. What right do they have to finger
> point
> us! Forget it!!!
>
> I think it would be hard for them to find out who my
> boss is, because my boss just keeps changing. :-) I
> am
> going to meet my 5th boss (in 4 years) in the next
> month or so. Hopefully, they won't find HR, that's
> when I may get into trouble. Anyway, I will be
> prepared. These days, my Chinese colleagues keep
> asking me, why they are aftering us, what are they
> up
> to? That's exactly the thing I couldn't understand,
> what are they thinking when they do these mean
> things,
> just for fun? or they really believe they are
> someone,
> while in reality they are nobody? People! Ugly
> people!
>
> You all take care!
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No <sunwe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Hanlin
> > So so so sorry to make you all famous! :-( Be
> really
> > careful, those people can do anything. Digging out
> > the
> > info is 1st step, next they may do things more
> mean.
> > Like Jinya's boss got the anonymos letter saying
> she
> > was the suspect! You & Gang need to be very
> careful,
> > especially you, as somebody think you were the
> > roommate. Maybe you want to inform your boss
> ahead?
> > If he/she knows about cultural revolution, it's
> > easier
> > for them to understand, like Ya's boss. Anyway,
> you
> > decide yourself, but just get prepared...
> >
> > Don't be chou4 mei3 about the comment of being
> > "Liang4
> > li4" :-P
> > They won't stop doing mean things simply because
> you
> > are "Liang4 Li4".
> > BTW, maybe you want to share with us your "liang
> li"
> > picture in high-school? I haven't seen it before
> :-)
> > I also remembered I saw somewhere people found out
> > the
> > amount of Gang's denate to ZhuLing and people are
> > spreading virus words, saying it's too little etc.
> I
> > was sooo furious! How ugly people are!! Recently
> I'm
> > always surprised about this topic :(
> >
> > Back to your question, according to media, it's
> > lethal, I mean dose in ZL's blood.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Hanlin Li <liha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Sun Xiaozhu,
> > >
> > > I've searched a different database
> (OVID/MEDLINE)
> > > from
> > > Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> > > references
> > > don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> > > couple of papers of interest through our
> > > inter-library
> > > loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> > > striking information was obtained. The patients
> > > cited
> > > in most papers were administrated and treated in
> > > hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored
> for
> > > long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose
> > in
> > > Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure
> out
> > > again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
> > >
> > > Yazi,
> > >
> > > The attachements you sent in your earlier email,
> I
> > > can
> > > only open them at home (which doesn't help
> much).
> > I
> > > need to have the list of your hit references
> (was
> > it
> > > 300?) in some other format, so I can open them
> at
> > > work
> > > and do searches.
> > >
> > > Now my name is all over the place on internet, I
> > am
> > > the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> > > shocked at their "capability", they did a
> reverse
> > > search and find my current home address, my
> > pictures
> > > from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer
> > title,
> > > and even attached a satillite map of my house
> from
> > > google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the
> > bright
> > > side of it, as I found somebody referred me as
> the
> > > "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah?
> So,
> > > Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4
> > girl,
> > > as
> > > I was told someone has already digged out your
> > > picture
> > > from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> > > even
> > > know where it is. :-)
> > >
> > > I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is
> > now
> > > banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway,
> keep
> > me
> > > posted for anything new.
> > >
> > > Take care, all piglets.
> > >
> > > Hanlin
> > >
> > > --- Yes No <sunwe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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--- Yes No <sunwe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> sorry, wrong typing, it was "thethruth" to open it
>
> Merry Xmas!
>
>
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Dear Niangzi
Your comment is right!
1. For this point, I thought and thought, read and
read, have the same feeling as you do, so already
deleted from the doc. Although it's true, it will just
make it worse if it's from my mouth :(
2.Good point. And I decided to simplify this part
greatly to avoid people thinking negatively.
3.Simpson?! Niangzi, you have been abroad for toooooo
long! I mean 佘祥林!He was sentensed to death 11
years ago, later changed to Si3 Huan3, cos he was
suspected to have killed his wife. But his wife just
came back home 11 years later!
Have a nice day!
--- Jin Ya <jiny...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 娘子,
>
> 我看过第二版了,再提出几点意见,还是权作参考。
>
>
1。“...朱令也是校社团的积极分子。社团和团委的骨干成员有单独的宿舍楼,不分院系、年级,既没有熄灯和用电限制也不锁楼门,是大家聚会、活动的中心。朱令经常回宿舍很晚。她第一次中毒后返校期间仍然每天中午去社团或团委煎药,据她自己说也有时是别人提前帮她煎好了的。”这一段如果写得再圆滑一点就好了,象加个“举个例子来说”,“比如说”这样的词句。如果我是不知情的人,很可能会觉得你在暗示这个情况和中毒有密切关系,如果不是你的本意的话,可能会有一些反面作用。看你的考虑。
>
>
2。你爷爷那一段,我觉得挺好的。不过能不能稍微表达一下你爷爷出身贫寒,自己奋斗成材的意思,反正就是别让人觉得你们家是那种大的“世家”,有很多人罩着的那种。
>
>
3。“前不久的xxx杀妻案为什么会被判刑?就是因为“死者”家属有怀疑,而且又找到了一具女尸,看似证据确凿,而xxx又拿不出证据证明自己无罪。其实这也是许多未破案件时一些被怀疑人遇到的共同问题。”看到这一段我是想到了你说的应该是"Simpson"的案子,但我的印象不深,google以后才了解了详情和最后判决,但其他人会不会也能立刻想到?不过也许国内新闻曾广泛报道过?另外,我google后的感觉是这个案子实在太复杂了,所以好多人好像还是对Simpson到底杀妻没有心存疑虑。再让你家里人帮你参谋参谋,别起到了反作用。
>
>
我觉得你写得挺好的,这些意见都是我尽量站在不知情人的角度上吹毛求疵的结果:)。我和其他小猪的担心一样,写得再好,也会有人故意或不故意地曲解。而且这两天我在想,如果是朱家刻意地散布这些谣言,可能就是为了把你逼出来,现在也算达到了目的了,sigh。不过也没法再躲了。但你一定要做好心理准备,要我们帮忙的尽管说,另外怎么发表,从什么渠道,多少网站开始,还有对可能发生情况的应对(来自朱家,公安什么的),也要做好准备。虽然我知道你家里人和xxx肯定已经帮你想到了,还是忍不住多个嘴:P.
>
> 好了,正经事说完了,祝各个小猪圣诞快乐,新年好!
>
> --- Yes No <sunwe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > sorry, wrong typing, it was "thethruth" to open it
> >
> > Merry Xmas!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________
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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 08:56:15 -0800 (PST)
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the same password as usual.
happy new year!
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Here you go.
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this is what I was working on when Hanlin called.
I will reply to Bei's statement first.
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sorry, my network is so slow....
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Extracted points.
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Help to check and look if anything I need missed.
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my comment for your reference.
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I added some "meat" :)
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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:25:03 +0800
So early?
I heard qizi said you will go back on Jan. 16th so, I am thinking of
calling you this weekend. Sigh! Am I mis-understand?
Recently, my colleagues asked me serveral times about Zhuling. It looks
the
influence of article "Tian Du" is far enough. I didn't tell them I am
her
classmate. As the looker-on, they are only curious, I think. And I
don't
want to make more curiosity. :(
Gao
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I am back to reality
Dear piglets,
I am back to US now, again, I am having post-vacation
trauma. No matter how long I stayed at home, it always
seems too short.
Qizi, I really miss you. I had so much fun hanging out
with you guys. Thank you for the gift, it was really
nice of you. And tell P4 I missed him too. hahaha...
:-)
Sun Xiaozhu, I am really sorry that I didn't really
keep up with the progress on internet after I got to
Shanghai. I felt really guilty for having fun while
you were suffering. So what's new now? any
instructions for what's next? Is your life easier
after the post?
Are you gals still MSN everyday?
Hanlin
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:16:55 -0800 (PST)
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Girls
I don't know how to express my feeling except by
repeating that I'm so moved -- I know I'm not good at
expression feelings :-P although I'm good at being
ironic :-P
Anyway, this is the most memorable "re-union" I had!
Hanlin, never feel bad that you enjoyed your life in
SH -- we all know it even if you don't say a word :-D
-- you are still the same you :-P
And I'm still the same me -- I will also enjoy my life
-- The more they want to torture me, I more I will
live better and enjoy more about life!
An update to you all about current situation:
Zhu's Mom has started raising this issue to new papers
and magazines, and Sina and Sohu reported on the 1st
page.
I'm pretty sure that she will start to target TV soon.
BTW, yesterday the journalist is already calling my
parents home (they get the number from Zhu's family)
and asked to interview me. My dad rejected, but maybe
they will quote my dad's word saying that he rejected
to be interviewed etc. Who knows.
Now, seriously, I do need your help! Cos I'm prepared
either to be exposed by media, or sue them.
And I do need your support to clarify something.
1. Zhu's mom told the journalist that I envy her
daughter and 挑拨朱和另一个舍友的关系, don't know who
though.
So I need the official confirmation from wang qi and
jin ya that I never 挑拨你们和朱的关系。of cause she
can still insist that her daughter said so, but it
will be quite weak, cos if sb want to 挑拨, it should
be from both sides.
2. Zhu's mom told skyoneline (in page 20 of my
statement) that 我造谣说朱社交广泛 while in fact she
was not.
I need also the official confirmation from you all,
and from your own respect, saying that zhu does have
broad social activities, and often doesn't particiapte
class activities.
belle and Hanlin can also, if you still remember,
confirm that zhu is always back to dorm very late,
i.e., when we had fun in our dorm after 晚自习, she is
normally not there.
if you still remember that she sometimes don't even
come back,can say it, but if you don't remember, just
don't say.
Wangqi and Ya, for you two piglets, I need the confirm
from your side that she was always back very late, up
to 12, and sometimes not coming back at all.
I know it's very bad to say it, and that's why in the
past we never tell something like this. but now her
mother is pushing for this and I simply have no choice
at all :-(
Could you?
3. Her mom also said to skyoneline that the "coffee
cup" Bei described was true!
So, need you 2 to confirm again :(
I'm very sorry that all these statements have to be
with your real name.
And I do understand the concern... --- if her family
is this mad, they may hate you all as well if you said
sth for me and again them.
So, absolutely fine if you have the concern. and
absolutely if you can't do it :-)
Anyway, all the best wishes to of the piglets, and
piglets' hbs & bf :)
Wei
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To: "Yes No" <sunwe...@yahoo.com>
CC: "Jin Ya" <jiny...@yahoo.com>, "Hanlin Li" <liha...@yahoo.com>,
"Qi Wang" <w...@gffunds.com.cn>
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Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:09:06 +0800
Dear niangzi,
And I also notice there is a person who said he/she is your
neighborhood
and write out your parents' address.
Busy day. Write to you later.
Gao
Yes No
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Hanlin Li <liha...@yahoo.com>,
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PM <jiny...@yahoo.com>, Qi Wang
<w...@gffunds.com.cn>
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Subject
update
Girls
I don't know how to express my feeling except by
repeating that I'm so moved -- I know I'm not good at
expression feelings :-P although I'm good at being
ironic :-P
Anyway, this is the most memorable "re-union" I had!
Hanlin, never feel bad that you enjoyed your life in
SH -- we all know it even if you don't say a word :-D
-- you are still the same you :-P
And I'm still the same me -- I will also enjoy my life
-- The more they want to torture me, I more I will
live better and enjoy more about life!
An update to you all about current situation:
Zhu's Mom has started raising this issue to new papers
and magazines, and Sina and Sohu reported on the 1st
page.
I'm pretty sure that she will start to target TV soon.
BTW, yesterday the journalist is already calling my
parents home (they get the number from Zhu's family)
and asked to interview me. My dad rejected, but maybe
they will quote my dad's word saying that he rejected
to be interviewed etc. Who knows.
Now, seriously, I do need your help! Cos I'm prepared
either to be exposed by media, or sue them.
And I do need your support to clarify something.
1. Zhu's mom told the journalist that I envy her
daughter and 挑拨朱和另一个舍友的关系, don't know who
though.
So I need the official confirmation from wang qi and
jin ya that I never 挑拨你们和朱的关系。of cause she
can still insist that her daughter said so, but it
will be quite weak, cos if sb want to 挑拨, it should
be from both sides.
2. Zhu's mom told skyoneline (in page 20 of my
statement) that 我造谣说朱社交广泛 while in fact she
was not.
I need also the official confirmation from you all,
and from your own respect, saying that zhu does have
broad social activities, and often doesn't particiapte
class activities.
belle and Hanlin can also, if you still remember,
confirm that zhu is always back to dorm very late,
i.e., when we had fun in our dorm after 晚自习, she is
normally not there.
if you still remember that she sometimes don't even
come back,can say it, but if you don't remember, just
don't say.
Wangqi and Ya, for you two piglets, I need the confirm
from your side that she was always back very late, up
to 12, and sometimes not coming back at all.
I know it's very bad to say it, and that's why in the
past we never tell something like this. but now her
mother is pushing for this and I simply have no choice
at all :-(
Could you?
3. Her mom also said to skyoneline that the "coffee
cup" Bei described was true!
So, need you 2 to confirm again :(
I'm very sorry that all these statements have to be
with your real name.
And I do understand the concern... --- if her family
is this mad, they may hate you all as well if you said
sth for me and again them.
So, absolutely fine if you have the concern. and
absolutely if you can't do it :-)
Anyway, all the best wishes to of the piglets, and
piglets' hbs & bf :)
Wei
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:53:11 -0800 (PST)
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To: "Yes No" <sunwe...@yahoo.com>, "Fei Gao"
<rita...@sz.chn.tuv.com>, "Hanlin Li" <han...@snet.net>, "Qi Wang"
<w...@gffunds.com.cn>
Sorry, niangzi, I will speak in a frank way here, hope
you don't mind: As I told xxx yesterday, I am
willing to help, for sure. My concern is that you
will speak to media first? I am somewhat afraid it
will finally develop to a mouth fighting (da3 zui3
zhang4), like on Tianya. If to Gong-an, I have no
problem to give my statement; but to media, I suggest
you have a more thorough consideration, it may finally
be a bigger and wider mess and be no real help for
solving the problem. Of course, niangzi, if finally
no way but only fighting through media, I will stand
out to clarify those point.
Best regards,
Jin
PS: Hanlin's dream is also my dream~~~a very
handsome..., but it is just a dream, have to admit :P.
Hanlin, I guess you bought many good stuff in
Shanghai? How about the foods there?
--- Yes No <sunwe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Girls
> I don't know how to express my feeling except by
> repeating that I'm so moved -- I know I'm not good
> at
> expression feelings :-P although I'm good at being
> ironic :-P
> Anyway, this is the most memorable "re-union" I had!
>
> Hanlin, never feel bad that you enjoyed your life in
> SH -- we all know it even if you don't say a word
> :-D
> -- you are still the same you :-P
> And I'm still the same me -- I will also enjoy my
> life
> -- The more they want to torture me, I more I will
> live better and enjoy more about life!
>
> An update to you all about current situation:
> Zhu's Mom has started raising this issue to new
> papers
> and magazines, and Sina and Sohu reported on the 1st
> page.
> I'm pretty sure that she will start to target TV
> soon.
> BTW, yesterday the journalist is already calling my
> parents home (they get the number from Zhu's family)
> and asked to interview me. My dad rejected, but
> maybe
> they will quote my dad's word saying that he
> rejected
> to be interviewed etc. Who knows.
>
> Now, seriously, I do need your help! Cos I'm
> prepared
> either to be exposed by media, or sue them.
> And I do need your support to clarify something.
>
> 1. Zhu's mom told the journalist that I envy her
> daughter and 挑拨謥E土桓錾嵊训墓叵? don't know
> who
> though.
> So I need the official confirmation from wang qi and
> jin ya that I never 挑拨你们和謥E墓叵怠f cause she
> can still insist that her daughter said so, but it
> will be quite weak, cos if sb want to 挑拨, it
> should
> be from both sides.
>
> 2. Zhu's mom told skyoneline (in page 20 of my
> statement) that 我詠Eニ抵丒缃还惴?while in fact she
> was not.
> I need also the official confirmation from you all,
> and from your own respect, saying that zhu does have
> broad social activities, and often doesn't
> particiapte
> class activities.
> belle and Hanlin can also, if you still remember,
> confirm that zhu is always back to dorm very late,
> i.e., when we had fun in our dorm after 旺笤习, she
> is
> normally not there.
> if you still remember that she sometimes don't even
> come back,can say it, but if you don't remember,
> just
> don't say.
>
> Wangqi and Ya, for you two piglets, I need the
> confirm
> from your side that she was always back very late,
> up
> to 12, and sometimes not coming back at all.
>
> I know it's very bad to say it, and that's why in
> the
> past we never tell something like this. but now her
> mother is pushing for this and I simply have no
> choice
> at all :-(
>
> Could you?
>
> 3. Her mom also said to skyoneline that the "coffee
> cup" Bei described was true!
> So, need you 2 to confirm again :(
>
>
> I'm very sorry that all these statements have to be
> with your real name.
> And I do understand the concern... --- if her family
> is this mad, they may hate you all as well if you
> said
> sth for me and again them.
>
> So, absolutely fine if you have the concern. and
> absolutely if you can't do it :-)
>
> Anyway, all the best wishes to of the piglets, and
> piglets' hbs & bf :)
>
> Wei
>
>
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Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:21:54 -0800 (PST)
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To: "Jin Ya" <jiny...@yahoo.com>, "Fei Gao"
<rita...@sz.chn.tuv.com>, "Hanlin Li" <han...@snet.net>, "Qi Wang"
<w...@gffunds.com.cn>
Girls,
I finally find out that now there is no sense to spend
further time on internet cos there are sooooooo many
virius people there. Our words are already out, normal
people will take it, and that’s what we expect. For
the mad dogs, just let them bark.
My family will follow the internet. If they find out
really some critical things and need your help, I will
let you know, either wise, no need to pay attention on
it.
One thing I really need your help urgently is the Tl
papers. As I’m busy with the letters to police, not
much time. So could you pls help with the papers. :(
你们有空帮着看看文献并翻译吗?
不用全翻!我们感兴趣的只是:有没有可能是一次中毒。
估计很少有2次中毒的case,所以如果是一次中毒的文章,只需要看一下中毒后如果没有及时(2-3个月)治疗的症状,如果提前治疗了的文章就可以仍一边根本不用看了。
如果看到2-3个月没有治疗的case,不论是否支持我们希望的结论,都请把相关时间—症状部分翻译一下,并翻译一下患者的年龄、性别、体质/身体状况等。
金亚帮着查了一堆文献,xxx分发一下,能分头处理一下吗?俺俩忙晕了,还有好多文章要写:(
many thanks!
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:19:29 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: hanlin, don't get angry :(
To: "Jin Ya" <jiny...@yahoo.com>, "Fei Gao"
<rita...@sz.chn.tuv.com>, "Hanlin Li" <han...@snet.net>, "Qi Wang"
<w...@gffunds.com.cn>
刚在天涯上看见“李含琳”发的帖子"请大家放过薛刚,谢谢!"
It says:
“这个世界上不会有无缘无故的爱,也不会有无缘无故的恨。他说过什么,做过什么,一定都是有原因的;但是有一点,他不是坏人,我也不是,我们都没有坏心,请大家放过他,放过我们一家。
11年过去了,该消失的早已消失,网络上再声势浩大,也不过是虚拟的东西,为什么还要紧紧咬住不放呢?如果真的有人下毒,这些年来她必定也不好过,为什么一定要掀什么来呢?
我不知道继续下去会有什么结果。我只想安安静静地做一个普通的人。请大家放过我们吧,谢谢!”
He/she first pretent to look like real hanlin, and the
next step, I guess, is to say something really bad.
here it already started to imply that if I am the
murderer, i must have already suffered these years, so
let me go. And in the future, all "your" words or
words from classmates could be interpretated as they
are helping me to escape from the punishment even if i
am the murderer, cos I have already suffered a lot. SO
MEAN!!!
So it's quite clear that there is no sense to spend
further time on internet cos there are sooooooo many
virius people there. Our words are already out, normal
people will take it, and that’s what we expect. For
the mad dogs, just let them bark.
My family will follow the interne更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net