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Sometimes it's what you watch...

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本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛If you follow one TV series, it's easy to understand the characters since you kind of expect what they will say under such circumstance.

But not all series are created equal in terms of easiness ESL viewers. I am ranking some of the series I have watched, the easiest comes first:

Friends
Seinfeld
The Simpsons
Fraser
The West Wing

Simpons is easy in phrase, but the cartoon characters speak fast and in high pitched voices, which makes it difficult to follow at first.

Fraser is highbrow, kind of British humor.

West Wing is very good. When I started to watch it last year, I could hear every word but could't make sense of the whole sentence. The characters make very intelligent conversation in a closely knit story. To solve this problem, I taped every episode and watch it twice. Caption - No Caption. After four episodes I can do No caption (which I will understand 70%) and then I turn on caption to pick up the rest.

For comedy movies like "My big fat Greek wedding" which don't have much accent, now I can understand 100%.更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net

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偶很没出息，老是要开字幕:-( -dinahxh(白鼠); 2002-12-31 (#947926@0)

偶很没出息，老是要开字幕:-( -pyramid(㊣金字塔); 2003-1-1 (#948559@0)

差不多。 -lazycat(飞鹰战士); 2002-12-31 (#947939@0)

小声问一句，北美待了几年了？ -siebel(阿丽梦啊我来离萨); 2003-1-1 (#948284@0)

敌营十八年 -blue_blooded(Street Urchin); 2003-1-1 (#948294@0)
也不用几年，如果自己刻意去做的话，半年到一年足可以。 -lazycat(孤独的长跑猫); 2003-1-1 (#948307@0)

good good! tks tks! 能否介绍一下如何“刻意”？偶已经刻意了三年多了，一关字幕还是抓瞎。怎么办呢？谢谢！ -siebel(阿丽梦啊我来离萨); 2003-1-1 (#948453@0)

：）和偶一样。 -ningxin0809(雁影行洲); 2003-1-1 (#948459@0)

你已经依赖字幕了。关掉字幕，一开始听不懂，只要保证每天听3-4个小时，不出半年，至少可以达到70% -hiding(HHHHH); 2003-1-1 (#948490@0)

也试过。我的问题的关键在于：不能集中注意力。关掉字幕只能听3-5分钟，再听3小时和10小时没有区别，因为根本没忘脑子里去，英文神经早已魂游天外，怎么办？谢谢！ -siebel(阿丽梦啊我来离萨); 2003-1-1 (#948525@0)

一定要忍住，第一天，3-5分钟，第二天，5-7分钟，不知不觉就提高了。真的，若干年前，我一开始听VOA时，5分钟之内必睡着。每天睡着之前都听，后来新闻基本上能听懂70%了。别不信奥。。。 -hiding(HHHHH); 2003-1-1 (#948541@0)

这个偶信，信。偶开车只听680，没睡着，新闻能听个七上八下了现在。可是那电视里花花绿绿的节目总是不行，有没有绝的一点招数？靠自律似乎很难。 -siebel(阿丽梦啊我来离萨); 2003-1-1 (#948547@0)

Persistence will lead you there. Like a Chinese idiom says practice makes perfect. -oldie(OLDSTER); 2003-1-1 (#948557@0)
CBC radio one, 99.1. All talk, no commercials. -rounder(rounder); 2003-1-1 {42} (#948753@0)
Thanks for your opinion on IBM by the way.

那看一些有趣的电影或肥皂剧呢？ -lazycat(孤独的长跑猫); 2003-1-1 (#948594@0)
3到4个小时???谁每天那么有空???? -jacky2001(beyond); 2003-1-1 (#948651@0)

晚上葱7：00－10：00就3个小时。 -lazycat(孤独的长跑猫); 2003-1-1 (#948665@0)

所以压根儿就别开,否则总是忍不住地看 -chentimmy(timmy); 2003-1-1 (#948496@0)
简单, 弄个没有字幕功能的电视...是不是所有的电视都有字幕功能呢? 平时的阅读也对看电视有帮助...我觉得1年应该能听懂新闻的80%, 电影的60%, 2年有所提高, 3年后新闻应该95%-100%, 电影75%-95%视电影类别而定 -dropoutinmiami(饺子@2003年); 2003-1-1 (#948587@0)

SORRY,我觉得和鬼佬一起生活的经验是不适合普罗大众的. -angelaaa(忍不住说两句); 2003-1-1 (#948912@0)

Well, don't be so critical. You know that Jiaozi's LG is an English speaker. -oldie(OLDSTER); 2003-1-1 (#948917@0)

所以我才觉得她能做到的别人未必能. -angelaaa(忍不住说两句); 2003-1-1 (#948949@0)

Don't be discouraged. There is a will, there is a way! -oldie(OLDSTER); 2003-1-1 (#948960@0)

Sometimes it's what you watch... -rounder(rounder); 2003-1-1 {1063} (#948736@0)
本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛If you follow one TV series, it's easy to understand the characters since you kind of expect what they will say under such circumstance.

But not all series are created equal in terms of easiness ESL viewers. I am ranking some of the series I have watched, the easiest comes first:

Friends
Seinfeld
The Simpsons
Fraser
The West Wing

Simpons is easy in phrase, but the cartoon characters speak fast and in high pitched voices, which makes it difficult to follow at first.

Fraser is highbrow, kind of British humor.

West Wing is very good. When I started to watch it last year, I could hear every word but could't make sense of the whole sentence. The characters make very intelligent conversation in a closely knit story. To solve this problem, I taped every episode and watch it twice. Caption - No Caption. After four episodes I can do No caption (which I will understand 70%) and then I turn on caption to pick up the rest.

For comedy movies like "My big fat Greek wedding" which don't have much accent, now I can understand 100%.更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net

半年,一年,吹牛吧. 嫁鬼子也没这么快吧. -angelaaa(忍不住说两句); 2003-1-1 (#948809@0)
你所谓的听懂, 是你自己认为的, 你顶多听出了他们说的词, 但意思外国人一辈子也不能全懂. 我认为CBC的22minutes练听力好. 里面很多讽刺挖苦的弦外音... -playtiger(秋去冬来, 望春风); 2003-1-1 (#948872@0)

Understanding everything is impossible for adult English learners in just a few years. It takes a long time to reach that level. Culture difference, idiomaticity, content and context make it really difficult. -oldie(OLDSTER); 2003-1-1 (#948530@0)

看字幕没有错，昨天广场的那个演员经常乱喊，字幕打出菲律宾土话否则我们根本听不懂 -nolater(nolater); 2003-1-1 (#948589@0)

不开字幕算什么本事啊？我不开音量，就看口型，我都能看个八九不离十。 -rosie(狐狸姐姐); 2003-1-1 {8} (#948815@0)

xixixixi

You are great. You must be a language genius ! -oldie(OLDSTER); 2003-1-1 (#948841@0)

thank you, but.......you knew i was kidding, didn't you? -rosie(狐狸姐姐); 2003-1-1 (#948848@0)

Yes. I knew that. I have learning English for more than 15 years, did my graduate work in an English school, and my level of Eglish is well above average. I wouldn't say I understand everything while watching TV. -oldie(OLDSTER); 2003-1-1 (#948857@0)

you have learning? -blue_blooded(Street Urchin); 2003-1-1 (#948864@0)

Sorry, should be "have been learning!". By the way, I know you are a smart guy/gal by your name. Are you the offspring of the Royal Family of China, or Britain? -oldie(OLDSTER); 2003-1-1 (#948890@0)

I am just a street urchin roaming Toronto and environs hereabouts... -blue_blooded(Street Urchin); 2003-1-1 (#948957@0)

Yep. I was just joking. -oldie(OLDSTER); 2003-1-1 (#948963@0)

I know, but do you think any brass ring would hit me if I were really blue blooded? -blue_blooded(Street Urchin); 2003-1-1 (#948983@0)

Probably not. -oldie(OLDSTER); 2003-1-1 (#949005@0)

看TV, 他还没张嘴我就知道他要说什么.......................因为节目看过若干遍了. -playtiger(秋去冬来, 望春风); 2003-1-1 (#948860@0)
不开音量，算什么本事啊,我不开电视机,就能知道他在讲什么. -jacky2001(beyond); 2003-1-1 {7} (#948903@0)
看过了.

You must the genius' teacher! -oldie(OLDSTER); 2003-1-1 (#948910@0)

哈哈,以前看过好几遍了,不看也知道了 -jacky2001(beyond); 2003-1-1 (#948987@0)

倒。狐狸果然与众不同。：） -liding_wang(大砍刀再战江湖); 2003-1-1 {8} (#948927@0)
大仙儿。

有人真敢吹!听中文的谈政治,经济,文化的电视,广播什么的,很多人都要全声贯注才可以听明白些,听英语的只要一年,二年就行,不可能的. -246(246); 2003-1-1 (#948818@0)

有可能，政治经济的相对体育或俚语对白的真的很好懂 -tiger5z(Turbo Lover); 2003-1-1 (#949082@0)

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