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工作学习 / 外语学习 / 请美帝苏修及其他同学批评指正。
-c_w(.);
2012-11-7
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HISPANIC是啥?老墨?
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2012-11-7
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西班牙的; 西班牙文的; 西班牙人的
-c_w(.);
2012-11-7
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在美国说西班牙语的最多就是老墨了吧?估计占到九成九?
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2012-11-7
(#7886352@0)
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还有 CUBAN,波多黎各的。
-c_w(.);
2012-11-7
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那是,南美很多说西班牙语的,不过都敌不过老墨众多移民,在加州南部有些地方老墨几乎就是半边天。。。
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2012-11-7
(#7886367@0)
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我挺喜欢老墨的,比老黑强多了。美国把老黑惯得 ... 贼懒 ...
-c_w(.);
2012-11-7
(#7886378@0)
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我也喜欢老墨,乐天奔放,勤劳可亲,值得信赖,混身都是冒险的激情。
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2012-11-7
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南加州,德州,亚州,都是原来人家墨西哥的地盘呀。美国凭啥就给夺了去,怎么就那么缺德呢
-heater(美帝苏修);
2012-11-7
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连亚洲都是?这个还真不知道。。。
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2012-11-7
(#7886433@0)
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亚利桑拿州
-heater(美帝苏修);
2012-11-7
(#7886527@0)
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奥,原来是这个亚洲。。。以为原来中国也是墨西哥人占着。。。
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2012-11-7
(#7886533@0)
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虽然你没说什么长句,但可以听出你的发音,语调都比绝大多数国移强。个别单词的发音再注意点就更好了,比如: Even, Advocate。。另外,尽量少用 fillers, 比如, you know..
-winterstorm(打酱油的);
2012-11-7
(#7886380@0)
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多谢!是,这些 FILLER 挺难去除的,都是臭毛病。
-c_w(.);
2012-11-7
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另外,你的音色也很好。
-winterstorm(打酱油的);
2012-11-7
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再次谢谢你了。没有时间录歌,也不会那些乱七八糟的设置,没有灌水容易。等有机会了。
-c_w(.);
2012-11-7
(#7886393@0)
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暂时录不了歌也罢。反正你说得已经比很多人唱得都好听了。
-winterstorm(打酱油的);
2012-11-7
(#7886411@0)
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How about you? Would you please share with us as well?
-thornthorn($oOHoly MolyOo$);
2012-11-7
(#7886529@0)
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酱油哥对你已经够宽容了,人家可不是一般地打酱油哦,别闹了:)。
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2012-11-7
(#7886558@0)
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我就爱捡软柿子捏。
-thornthorn($oOHoly MolyOo$);
2012-11-7
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您的意思是本人对您太客气了?
-winterstorm(打酱油的);
2012-11-7
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Ah ha, are you one of the 软柿子?
-thornthorn($oOHoly MolyOo$);
2012-11-7
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比我说的强好多倍。我觉得你需要提高的,也许是演讲能力,煽动听众的能力。但估计你也许在烤面包俱乐部已经混了很久了。
-heater(美帝苏修);
2012-11-7
(#7886406@0)
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又不选总统,还要煽动听众?
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2012-11-7
(#7886418@0)
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不当总统,还不许去搞传销吗
-heater(美帝苏修);
2012-11-7
(#7886419@0)
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传销不去干,工会主席可以考虑。。。
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2012-11-7
(#7886425@0)
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工会主席?无非是中秋节发月饼,三八节给女同志发电影票,卫生用品,不需要练习演讲能力。
-heater(美帝苏修);
2012-11-7
(#7886436@0)
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要不就居委会主任?
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2012-11-7
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烤面包去过一次,就换工作地点,不方便去了。SPEECH 是我的巨大的缺陷。我现在的目的是达意,把日常的处理好,慢慢累积,等待爆发,呵呵。不过 SPEECH 是要连的。我在会议上发言并不难为,但是真上台讲的时候很没有章法,不准备好,就不行。
-c_w(.);
2012-11-7
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Almost a native New Yorker? WOW…
-thornthorn($oOHoly MolyOo$);
2012-11-7
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俺就等着你滴发言指方向聂。。。。
-tigar25(大忽悠之准备冬眠);
2012-11-7
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I feel like he has very limited schooling or grown up in slums.
-thornthorn($oOHoly MolyOo$);
2012-11-7
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Maybe, I can't tell. He is only a technician.
-c_w(.);
2012-11-7
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有没有人跟你反应。。。。?你最近越来越露骨咧。。。。
-tigar25(大忽悠之准备冬眠);
2012-11-7
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(#7886546@0)
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11.5 years in North America.
-c_w(.);
2012-11-7
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It depends on how old he was then.
-thornthorn($oOHoly MolyOo$);
2012-11-7
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He is not 40 yet, somewhere in the neighborehood of 35-39, I think.
-c_w(.);
2012-11-7
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时间长短不是问题,我觉得有两点很重要,第一是天赋,第二是多说多练。像我这样连中文都说不好,更别指望英文了,也来了十多年了,没用。。。
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2012-11-7
(#7886524@0)
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你?中文说不好?肿么可能?我上不得台面,就白呼还行。英语是上学的时候被同学损出来滴。
-c_w(.);
2012-11-7
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我说我在这里 11.5 年了,不是他,对不起,没说清楚。
-c_w(.);
2012-11-7
(#7886551@0)
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老墨同事还有一个优点,他的语言质量再不好,但节奏很好,有音乐性,来自西班牙母语的音乐优势,值得小c和我们学习。
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2012-11-7
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是,我合计是不是要学 SPANISH 呢,这里很容易。开始练练看。
-c_w(.);
2012-11-7
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要不然,听听 Ricky Martin 的歌也行:-)
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2012-11-7
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我也听了,觉得很好,音色很美,发音向美音转化70%大功已告成,有想法,有信息,有词汇,继续努力,很有希望。一些建议供你参考。
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2012-11-7
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非常透彻!真好。这第 3,4 点收益非浅,是这样的。
-c_w(.);
2012-11-7
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Did I not tell you? (#7885847@0)
-thornthorn($oOHoly MolyOo$);
2012-11-7
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担心哥, 你的评论很实在中肯, 有的放矢, 比酱油哥胜出好多个层次。
-thornthorn($oOHoly MolyOo$);
2012-11-7
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非常中啃!非常透彻!
-heater(美帝苏修);
2012-11-7
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Bravo! Very impressed! Can hardly tell the accent.... Kind of surprised your voice is so soft...gentle but directional? Hehe...
-borntobethe(云角);
2012-11-7
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"gentle but directional", that's the kicker and killer, hehe. thanks, bud.
-c_w(.);
2012-11-7
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Yes, exactly, sound like a woman, speak like a man, best combination.
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2012-11-7
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Thanks for sharing. Overall a good piece. A few suggestions here if you care to listen:
-ordinaryone(ok);
2012-11-7
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(#7887656@0)
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Appreciate your comments and suggestions. Putting myselt into the spotlight is to have comments and suggestions like what you and other folks had. I can't see myself clearly so I rely on you all to bring issues up. We all learn from each other.
-c_w(.);
2012-11-7
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I second your last paragraph, that’s why I appreciate 美帝’s effort so much…
-slowdownforrose(放慢脚步);
2012-11-7
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显摆啊。
-wincity(红卫兵);
2012-11-7
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How?
-thornthorn($oOHoly MolyOo$);
2012-11-7
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刺哥不要不服气。俺基本上可以断定你的口语不如小C。俺的口语也不如她。
-wincity(红卫兵);
2012-11-8
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(#7888823@0)
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岂敢, 岂敢。 从来没觉得我的口语好。 不过我很自信我的口语比酱油哥好 :-)哈哈哈。
-thornthorn($oOHoly MolyOo$);
2012-11-8
{8}
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你这种好比的心态比较不健康。
-winterstorm(打酱油的);
2012-11-8
(#7889219@0)
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酱油哥, 我就是这样想的吗。 你说我该怎么办?你觉得口是心非, 说一套做一套好? 可惜那不是我呀。 你是不是觉得你的口语比我的好?哈哈哈。
-thornthorn($oOHoly MolyOo$);
2012-11-8
{8}
(#7889233@0)
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你真越来越像二傻了。
-winterstorm(打酱油的);
2012-11-8
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Thanks for granting me the beautiful name 二傻. I love it. How is your day going so far? I am sure you have done your due diligence for today already. Talk to you later
-thornthorn($oOHoly MolyOo$);
2012-11-8
(#7889336@0)
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发音挺好,感觉北方人的R都说得好,大概R的发音和”儿”化音很象.但还是有点不能尽情表达自己想法的感觉,大家一起努力吧.
-slowdownforrose(放慢脚步);
2012-11-7
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是。等我找个合适的人,好好给我扳扳。几分钟就能做到的是,终身受益。谢了!
-c_w(.);
2012-11-8
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你是女声吗?
-zhousx18(心想事成);
2012-11-7
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楼主是北方人?
-looksee(qiaoqiao);
2012-11-7
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是,我是女生,是北方人。
-c_w(.);
2012-11-8
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祝贺,已经相当不错了!
-zhousx18(心想事成);
2012-11-8
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谢谢!他们提了些意见,楼下有我的总结。你有兴趣也看看,请多提宝贵意见。
-c_w(.);
2012-11-8
(#7890074@0)
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这里汇个总,把需要改进的地方记录下来,以观后效。由衷感谢以上网友的帮助,你们知道你的帮助有多大。周围的人没有给过这样高质量的反馈。再次感谢。以后请毫无忌讳,随时赐教。@. Remove of fillers
@. 注意个别词的发音,尤其是带 er 词的发音。
@. 提高演讲能力。
@. 每个词要发音完整,不要着急。
@. 注意倾听,琢磨倾听技巧,领会意思。清晰表达并在需要的时候能扩充观点。
@. 尽量用完整的句子,养成好习惯。允许冷场。
-c_w(.);
2012-11-8
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(#7888267@0)
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An important thing missing here is – do not cut people off during a conversation. That unfortunately happened numerable times in you audio clip.
-thornthorn($oOHoly MolyOo$);
2012-11-8
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Yes, I noticed that too. Thank you.
-c_w(.);
2012-11-8
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When you carry on a conversation you appear to be a bit pushy.
-thornthorn($oOHoly MolyOo$);
2012-11-8
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hehe, being pushy is a personality, that's hard to change ...
-c_w(.);
2012-11-8
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That’s why I used appear instead of tend. It’s ingrained.
-thornthorn($oOHoly MolyOo$);
2012-11-8
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Pushy, aggressive 如果形容性格一般都是贬义;assertive倒是一个中性词。
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2012-11-8
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I certainly know the difference. That’s how I felt when I was listening to the clip.
-thornthorn($oOHoly MolyOo$);
2012-11-8
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说实话我还是暗自为小C感到高兴。Being directional seems mostly a male strength. It is quite rare to hear a lady carry such directional capacity with quite good grace. I actually hope you can keep this strength, refine it and bring it to best effect. It can be a wonderful signature style of yours if handled with care. Keep it up!
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2012-11-8
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(#7888316@0)
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certainly. Some things/weakness can be easily overcome if and when identified. Some things are deep into myself, and I know they are of values to me, I will not change them and there are no needs to change them.
-c_w(.);
2012-11-8
(#7888321@0)
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Directional is not directive. The other party in the conversation happened to be quite soft-spoken. If both parties are opinionated it would not be a pleasant discussion.
-thornthorn($oOHoly MolyOo$);
2012-11-8
(#7888353@0)
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这个纠正得好!自己更正一下:应该用的形容词是"directive"。 "Directional"是指空间方面有指导性。谢!
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2012-11-8
(#7888797@0)
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perfect,比我好多了。但,仍提个意见:元音后面的r音,卷舌再少一些(美语r音只有舌尖稍卷,普通话的儿化韵是整个舌前部朝上卷),(---想像它介于你现在的发音位置和英国口音之间)。
-looksee(qiaoqiao);
2012-11-8
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谢谢,我一定认真纠正这个问题。
-c_w(.);
2012-11-8
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R音的发音方式有两种,一种是卷舌法,一种是我采用的“缩舌大法”(区别于鳌拜的缩阳大法)。我后面的文章里会试图探讨一下。
-heater(美帝苏修);
2012-11-8
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cool, i'd like to learn both. :))
-looksee(qiaoqiao);
2012-11-8
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