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工作学习 / 外语学习 / 转载： 造做的英语和淘汰的词语
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2013-1-14
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Thanks.
-thornthorn($oOHoly MolyOo$);
2013-1-14
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元芳，你怎么看？
-wincity(红卫兵);
2013-1-14
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Excellent points. What do you guys think NOTHANKS / WINTERSTORM?Yet depending on the work environment and audiences there may be different ways one would organize their thoughts / sentences.
-thornthorn($oOHoly MolyOo$);
2013-1-14
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i like incentivize. it's definitely not the same as "reward".
-wincity(红卫兵);
2013-1-14
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It is a fabricated word though :-).
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2013-1-14
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Certainly two different words, but one word of "reward" is powerful enough to equal "the process we employ to incentivize". That is the point I guess.
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2013-1-14
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It's certainly a good idea to make one's writing more concise. But people like your writing teacher run the risk of making it a religion, often cutting meat instead of just the fat.Their concise version often loses a lot in terms of meaning, expressiveness, vividness, understandableness, power, emotion, etc, compared to the less "concise" version. For example, I can reward you with $100 but that may not incentivize you because you're too rich.
-wincity(红卫兵);
2013-1-14
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Nah, disagree. Vivid language does not always need more words.
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2013-1-14
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Agreed.
-winterstorm(打酱油的);
2013-1-14
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不明白为什么每次酱油兄都要说＂agreed＂而不是＂agree＂或＂I agree＂。 我怎么都觉得别扭，容易联想到会计术语，在一个数旁边标上＂agreed＂，即已核对该数。
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2013-1-14
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Agree.
-thornthorn($oOHoly MolyOo$);
2013-1-14
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一个单独的动词从语法上讲就是一个句子，单独用agree, 就像像单独用stop, sit, go 等等，把回答变成了祈使句，从而产生“要求别人同意”这类歧义。所以本人要么用agreed (meaning "Your opinion is agreed"), 要么用“I agree” (meaning "I agree with your opinion").
-winterstorm(打酱油的);
2013-1-14
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Agree is an intransitive verb, isn't it?
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2013-1-15
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"Agree" can be both transitive and intransitive.
-winterstorm(打酱油的);
2013-1-15
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我觉得很合适，他说的是"你“被同意了，而不是”我“同意你了。这是尊重的表现，我的理解。
-c_w(|);
2013-1-14
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被动语态可不能这样乱用啊。
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2013-1-15
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World English Dictionary
agreed (əˈɡriːd) [Click for IPA pronunciation guide]
— adj
1. determined by common consent: the agreed price
— interj
2. an expression of agreement or consent
-wincity(红卫兵);
2013-1-15
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Therefore, it is not about the use of the passive voice, but that of an adjective.
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2013-1-15
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You are correct.
-nothanks(ciel);
2013-1-15
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才发现酱油哥的支持，俺是又惊又喜啊！
-wincity(红卫兵);
2013-1-15
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很高兴看到你受宠若惊的样子.
-thornthorn($oOHoly MolyOo$);
2013-1-15
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绝对化了。叙事可简单明了，写景不妨绚丽多彩，定义则须准确严谨，后两者都需要大量的词汇来支撑。根据写作的目的选用适当的风格才会最有效地表达作者的意图。写作者当然可以选择自己擅长的风格来写作，但不应认为自己擅长的就是最好的，唯一的写作标准。
-winterstorm(打酱油的);
2013-1-14
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定义也不一定要准确严谨，我觉得。
-c_w(|);
2013-1-14
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agreed。every penny counts。doesn't have to be a whole dollar。
-wincity(红卫兵);
2013-1-14
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如果定义用语都不需要严谨，世上还有什么事物需要被严谨地表述？
-winterstorm(打酱油的);
2013-1-14
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只能说尽量严谨。就是因为不严谨，才有了无穷无尽的 ASSUMPTION，因为人的 MIND 要比语言复杂得多，我肤浅的理解。
-c_w(|);
2013-1-14
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在下愚笨，已经被王小姐绕晕。
-winterstorm(打酱油的);
2013-1-14
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呵呵下一个 ...
随便有感就写了，不是为了和你较真。你说的其他的我都同意，只是觉得你这个太绝对了。
-c_w(|);
2013-1-14
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大千世界，千姿百态，语言有繁有简，才有意思。对我们新移民来讲，能把意思表达清楚，让对方听明白自己的观点，就非常不错了。
-mikesmith(老猫);
2013-1-15
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"把意思表达清楚" = simplicity is the soul of wit.
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2013-1-15
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这个编辑真得厉害。用简单的词把意思表达清楚最好。
-arrowroot(purple);
2013-1-15
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问个问题说英语，简单做好。
为什么说中文，都是委婉，拐弯抹角的呢？
-c_w(|);
2013-1-15
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也不是说英语就是简单。 你若读一读大使馆来信或律师来信，也可以领教无穷无尽的拐弯抹角。中文相对来说含蓄，可能因为它是象型文字，有许多意传的信息一看字就明白，不需太直白。
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2013-1-15
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"guru", "leverage" are still in use. Why kill them? Never heard of "incentivize", quite a tougue twister. "at the end of the day" is totally meaningless, should be avoided. "trending"? I don't know what that means. Trendy?"take-away", “double down” are rarely used.
-nothanks(ciel);
2013-1-15
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obviously you don't trade stocks.
-wincity(红卫兵);
2013-1-15
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"at the end of the day" is very meaningful. it's just disliked by language snobs.
-wincity(红卫兵);
2013-1-15
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就是因为比较通俗cute, 这个词已经被人们不分场合地滥用得不能再滥了。有些学术或商业场合，老老实实地用一个＂ultimately＂或＂eventually＂即可，何必如彼说得故意扮cute 呢？
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2013-1-15
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滥用当然不好，但是 at the end of the day 形象，生动，有人情味，有哲理味，绝不是 eventually 等词可比。trending，double down 也都是好词。你那个写作老师让俺想起私塾老太师。
-wincity(红卫兵);
2013-1-15
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就是咱们对什么样的场合说什么样的话，就象穿什么样的衣服一样，还要多多经历，多多学习。功勉。
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2013-1-16
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BTW， take-away 也比较生动形象，也是好词。
-wincity(红卫兵);
2013-1-15
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就像做红烧肉，很多佐料可有可无，但加了之后就有了些滋味，不那么干巴巴的。我也爱看史计，精炼，一个词顶10个；我也爱看金庸古龙，虽然用词量是史计的1000倍，但描写不同的内容，表达不同的感情，还是各取所需的好。
-mikesmith(老猫);
2013-1-16
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说的好！
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2013-1-16
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说的好！ -goingconern(GoingConcern);
-nuanxin(nuanxin);
2013-1-22
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为什么要请她改呢？是论文？
-blankbliss(给我一个空间);
2013-1-16
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拜师学艺做练习而已。
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2013-1-16
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