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工作学习 / 外语学习 / 我发现任何用英语说的东西,或听到的话。最后全是用中文存储进记忆里。大家是不是也这样?
-looksee(qiaoqiao);
2014-12-3
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Not in my case. I don't use a translation process to receive information. Maybe that's why.
-sailor(Ocean & Mountain);
2014-12-4
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i don't translate neither while communicating. what i mean is when storing info. i actually remember the meaning of what ppl said, but that memory is a one after translation. a good check maybe:if your collegue said smthing you need to remember and after 2-3 days, you ask yourself what he/she said. probably, you can remember what was said, but can you remember what words exactly were used?
-looksee(qiaoqiao);
2014-12-4
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Yes I remember the words that were initially used.
-sailor(Ocean & Mountain);
2014-12-4
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+1. 我一般情况下英语交流挺好。但问题是:当要进行逻辑思考,或brain storm时,用汉语思考,逻辑简洁,思路清晰。所以,想问问大家伙儿:当您进行一项比较复杂的思考时,用英语思考的速度和效率大约是用汉语进行同样思考的百分之多少?
-looksee(qiaoqiao);
2014-12-4
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Mostly I'm only using English for thinking. Sometimes I could run into situations that I'm not able to find the words to express myself. In these cases I would use Google translate to find the words that I need.My daily life is basically in English, except reading posts on Rolia. :)
-sailor(Ocean & Mountain);
2014-12-4
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+1. Great, and How to get there?
-looksee(qiaoqiao);
2014-12-5
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I do have some tricks. :) e.g. 1, Learn to count in English; 2, Use English in daily life; 3, Only read English news, etc.
-sailor(Ocean & Mountain);
2014-12-6
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你们家里也说英语吗?那孩子岂不是不会中文?
-catchingfire(百合);
2014-12-6
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I don't have such concern. :p
-sailor(Ocean & Mountain);
2014-12-6
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lucky you.
-catchingfire(百合);
2014-12-6
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thx, yes, that could be part of my problem: as i always memorize numbers in chinese, just being lazy. lol.
-looksee(qiaoqiao);
2014-12-6
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Counting is actually a very important language skill. I once had to count hundreds of bills in front of several other people when I exchanged money in Venezuela. That's really a stressful time. :D
-sailor(Ocean & Mountain);
2014-12-6
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+1. lol
-looksee(qiaoqiao);
2014-12-7
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how long have u been living in english speaking environment, and that was since how old? if u don't mind?
-looksee(qiaoqiao);
2014-12-6
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only need to answer one of the Qs, if not mind. no intention to guess ppl's age, (just realized, sorry) lol.
-looksee(qiaoqiao);
2014-12-6
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我觉得,大脑真正存储区,形式可能是影像之类的,还有个第一语言区,一般这个区和存储区直接映射。学外语的,会建立第二语言区,外语没学好时,第二语言是先和第一语言区映射,然后通过第一语言区和存储区的映射,去反应/寻找记忆。外语学好后,第二语言区就和存储区建立了直接和自动的映射。就不会每次都翻译下,才能反应过来了。
当准备说母语时,大脑就自动把母语区和存储区连接起来。当准备说外语时,大脑就自动把外语区和存储区连接起来。这时是整个区域的转换,而不是每句话,每个单词在外语-〉母语-〉存储直接转换。
-hddanne(安妮豆豆);
2014-12-4
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谢谢,从学习心理学来说。不知道选一段时间强制自己仅仅用英语记忆和思考,是否能形成习惯?
-looksee(qiaoqiao);
2014-12-4
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晕,这样岂不累死?而且你看中文节目时候怎么办,脑补成英文么:-)
-dianbutton(diandian);
2014-12-5
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一段时间不接触中文呗。
-looksee(qiaoqiao);
2014-12-5
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不是 你得分具体情况 比如名词 一般都是先入为主 你英文认识的名词就会存储英文 比如工作和生活的词汇 动词和形容词也是习惯了表述就自然存储 只有些情景感受 不是以语言存储的
-facenorthface(小北);
2014-12-4
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我的感觉是用中文时按中文思考,说用英文的时候就是按英文思考,其结果就是听和说英文的时候,IQ各种Q明显下降,写的时候和用中文思考时逻辑区别不大。
-keith_t(言修);
2014-12-4
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还有就是: 读书中出现复杂数学公式的时候,必须转换成汉语逻辑思考,否则,大脑对各种符号不对付
-keith_t(言修);
2014-12-4
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第二次握手! (好像是本小说?)
-looksee(qiaoqiao);
2014-12-5
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握手ing~~~!
-looksee(qiaoqiao);
2014-12-5
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早都是一锅浆糊了。想用中文就中文,想用英文就英文。哪个容易贴切奏用哪个,逮着哪个奏用哪个。
-meisuowei(,);
2014-12-4
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模糊逻辑,联想,灵感,靠中文。精确逻辑,辩论,法律,电脑编程,用英文。
-firetrain(火车头);
2014-12-5
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反正我是分不清了。也不留意到底是哪个语言在什么情况什么时间做什么事。哪个第一个先自己主动蹦出来,奏用哪个。
-meisuowei(,);
2014-12-5
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No Zuo No Die就是一例吧,哈哈
-alaabracadabra(AlaAbracadabra);
2014-12-6
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I find that my memory is not very language oriented, but rather more graphic and sensory. Depending on whom I'm with, the right language just comes out.
-ordinaryone(ok);
2014-12-7
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+1. that's really cool.
-looksee(qiaoqiao);
2014-12-7
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开始用英语做梦了。但醒来后记不清具体,所以,不知梦中所言语法对否?LOL
-looksee(qiaoqiao);
2014-12-21
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That's interesting! Seems you have immersed yourself in English. :)
-sailor(Ocean & Mountain);
2014-12-21
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更详细并确切点说:多年前开始,就会在梦里说英语,但都是整个梦里明确知道是在汉语语境里,只当需要时说英语。类似旅游者的情景。最近这几个梦,貌似在英语语境里。但,梦的情景却更为模糊,且醒来后能记起来的情景片段,仍然是以汉语储存的。
-looksee(qiaoqiao);
2014-12-22
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请问大家,你做英语梦时,醒来后回忆首先是英语描述还是汉语描述?
-looksee(qiaoqiao);
2014-12-22
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